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Old 01-25-2018, 03:51 PM   #9841 (permalink)
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Kidnapping victim shot in FBI 'operation' in Trinity Gardens area - Houston Chronicle

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An FBI agent apparently shot and killed a Montgomery County kidnapping victim during a predawn operation in northeast Houston, according to law enforcement sources.

The chaos that ended early Thursday at a Trinity Gardens home started a day earlier in Conroe, when a pair of men claiming cartel connections forced their way into a home and bound the father and son inside.

At least four suspects at two different scenes were picked up for questioning and three are facing charges in connection with the case, according to Conroe Police Department Sgt. Jeff Smith.

The FBI agent who fired the fatal shot is on administrative leave pending an internal investigation, according to agency spokeswoman Christina Garza.
Around 8 a.m. Wednesday, a 12-year-old boy heard a knock on the door of the Tyler Street home he shares with his uncle and father. The uncle was at work at the time, but the father answered the door and two men rushed in with guns, Smith said.

"They were demanding money they were owed that nobody knew anything about," Smith said.

They tore the house apart and took some property, then bound the boy and his father with duct tape before deciding to take the father with them.
The attackers ordered the boy not to call police. But at some point after the assailants fled, the boy broke free and ran to a neighbor's house, Smith said.
The neighbor called police, who launched an investigation and began interviewing the child and uncle.

As authorities worked to unravel what happened, the uncle got a call to his cell phone from a man who demanded a ransom and claimed to be with a cartel.
"There are oftentimes claims of a cartel connection just to place a fear factor," Smith said. He stressed that there was no indication any of the suspected kidnappers actually had cartel connections.

At that point, Conroe police called in the FBI, who obtained a federal warrant that helped them track the suspects' phone to a hotel in the Clear Lake area, Smith said.

"At that point we had full FBI resources," he said. "It was an FBI operation. They were calling the shots."

When federal investigators forced their way into the hotel room around midnight, they detained three people and questioned them. From that, authorities were able to trace the victim's location to the Trinity Gardens home in the 7300 block of Elbert.

The FBI burst into the home where there were multiple women and children and, at some point, sources said, the bound victim was shot.
The victim, who has not been identified, was rushed to Lyndon B. Johnson Hospital, where he died, Garza said.

A woman from the home was arrested and charged with aggravated kidnapping, Smith said, while two men from the hotel were hit with both aggravated kidnapping and aggravated robbery charges in Montgomery County. The wife of one of the suspects was also picked up at the hotel and questioned, but was not immediately charged.

"This was not a random cartel thing," he added. "It appears somebody connected to the family was involved."

The alleged cartel connection, he said, "was just used as a threat" to better extort money.

"This is not something that happens every day," Smith said. "You get kidnappings but not movie-style where there's people bound and removed, ransoms demanded. We definitely required the resources of the FBI at least."

The FBI did not immediately offer comment on the operation's connection to the earlier kidnapping.

"The investigation is ongoing and until all of the facts in the case are known, we are not able to provide additional comment at this time," Garza said around 11 a.m., as law enforcement combed the scene outside the small home still trimmed with Christmas lights.

HPD is now conducting its own investigation into the shooting, as the department does "any time a law enforcement officer, regardless of the agency, discharges a weapon causing injury in the city," HPD spokesman John Cannon said.

The Thursday morning outburst of violence startled neighbors on the quiet street of modest homes.

"This is not what happens on Elbert Street," said Flora Henry-Smith, who grew up there.

Monique McKnight, who lives nearby, recounted waking up to the sound of gunfire.

"It sounded like an explosion," she said. Another neighbor described hearing four shots in the dead of night.

It's not clear who lived in the single-story home at the center of the early morning activity, but according to neighbors the household including two adults and two young children who'd all been there about a year.

McKnight said investigators questioned her about the children. Other neighbors said they didn't see much of the family but were "shocked" at the turn of events.
"Everybody gets along," said one woman, who asked not to be named.

Sharon Ettinoffe stayed the night in her 91-year-old mother's home just around the corner - and woke up to federal agents pounding on the door, asking for information.

She didn't have anything to offer, and the federal officials at the door wouldn't give out details on what happened, she said.

"Your neighborhood will be safer now," one agent told her.
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What the hell kinda incompetent **** is that? People who don't have guns or anything are getting killed by police all the time, and even the FBI is doing it. Worse yet is that this is someone who was kidnapped and wanted nothing more than to go home.
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What the hell kinda incompetent **** is that? People who don't have guns or anything are getting killed by police all the time, and even the FBI is doing it. Worse yet is that this is someone who was kidnapped and wanted nothing more than to go home.
You hear about that swatting in Kansas?
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You hear about that swatting in Kansas?
Yup, and boy did that get dropped from the news discussion fast, and never once did I see the media narrative say anything about how much the police ****ed up.
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I read this story and started crying. Makes me think of Anne Frank.
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I read this story and started crying. Makes me think of Anne Frank.
An ex-coworker and good friend of mine was born in Columbia. She was in the US for decades, legally worked full time, paid her taxes, married and raised a family here.

Somewhere along the line she forgot to cross a T or dot an I and she was arrested at the San Diego airport while trying to fly back to Columbia to visit family. Her eldest son was in the US military at the time.

She was locked up in a ****ty detention center for about a month while the courts went over her case. She's petite and very attractive and was abused pretty badly during that time.

A bunch of us wrote letters to the court on her behalf, pleading the case that she was a model US citizen with a child serving the country. All to no avail. She got deported back to Columbia and didn't get back into the US and her family for over 3 years.

The far right can suck my dirty balls.
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An ex-coworker and good friend of mine was born in Columbia. She was in the US for decades, legally worked full time, paid her taxes, married and raised a family here.

Somewhere along the line she forgot to cross a T or dot an I and she was arrested at the San Diego airport while trying to fly back to Columbia to visit family. Her eldest son was in the US military at the time.

She was locked up in a ****ty detention center for about a month while the courts went over her case. She's petite and very attractive and was abused pretty badly during that time.

A bunch of us wrote letters to the court on her behalf, pleading the case that she was a model US citizen with a child serving the country. All to no avail. She got deported back to Columbia and didn't get back into the US and her family for over 3 years.

The far right can suck my dirty balls.
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Pretty much sums up how "smart" they are. Not to say that some flat-Earthers don't raise a few good points [don't ask me to say what, off the top of my head]. Being a truther, I have numerous flat-Earther friends. They call me a sheep when I deny that the Earth is flat. I counter with the Earth being [somewhat] hollow, which is even more conspiratorial than it being flat, so I win.
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