The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If he can’t be arrested he’s a de facto dictator.

Not if there isn't a protocol to replace him and keep peace. If the FBI seizes leadership is that not a dictatorial move? Like I said, the FBI doesn't want to be responsible for what happens if millions of people start fighting in the streets. They might have no choice, but there has to be a higher standard than that.

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by MicShazam

Basically, yeah.

If he's a dictator then he won't be honoring the law and then that's a whole different ballgame.

[OccultHawk]

He broke the law when he fired Comey.

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

He broke the law when he fired Comey.

The president is allowed to order our army to go into another country and kill people, but firing a guy in an attempt to cover his own ass should result in arrest? Are you ****ing kidding?

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Maajo

The president is allowed to order our army to go into another country and kill people, but firing a guy in an attempt to cover his own ass should result in arrest? Are you ****ing kidding?

No.

If he’s allowed to fire anyone who gets on his ass we have no checks and balances.

And about our flippant invasions, every president in my lifetime is (or was) a war criminal and every living president should be tried and put to death.

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

No.

If he’s allowed to fire anyone who gets on his ass we have no checks and balances.

If the FBI gets to arrest whoever they want, including the president, who checks them? Also, I'm pretty damn sure the president has the ability to fire Comey, otherwise it wouldn't have happened. There's probably just some deniability Trump has that you're overlooking and Mueller isn't.

And about our flippant invasions, every president in my lifetime is (or was) a war criminal and every living president should be tried and put to death.

I'd concede your point in regards to George W. Bush's Administration, minus the death penalty stuff. You and I were never in a position like the one Obama or Clinton was in where they had to ask themselves whether it was best to remove support and potentially let an organization like ISIL take hold.

[OccultHawk]

If the FBI gets to arrest whoever they want, including the president, who checks them?

They answer to the president but that doesn’t mean the president is above the law. If the FBI went rogue other law enforcement would be duty bound to issue arrests where the law is broken. They’re beholden to abuse of powers laws like all law enforcement agencies. The judicial branch handles the cases after the arrests. In order for the system to work certain good faith common sense measures have to be honored. Ridiculous ideas like the president can impede any investigation he doesn’t like or can pardon himself and so on cannot be accepted as normal policy. Clearly, Trump has gone rogue and has openly and flagrantly broken the law. So far, he’s getting a pass. If Americans accept this state of affairs or are placated by Mueller’s pathetic response then we go deeper and deeper into this dictatorship.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If Americans accept this state of affairs or are placated by Mueller’s pathetic response then we go deeper and deeper into this dictatorship.

What pathetic response? He's building an iron clad case brick by brick. Indicting
the 13 Russians this morning was a massive big balls move.

[OccultHawk]

I'd concede your point in regards to George W. Bush's Administration, minus the death penalty stuff. You and I were never in a position like the one Obama or Clinton was in where they had to ask themselves whether it was best to remove support and potentially let an organization like ISIL take hold.

If that’s the case then I want to make a plea to the UN to send troops into Florida. Use drones and smart missiles. It’s a complete ****show here. We’re decimating the environment. Shorelines and swamplands have been destroyed. We had the worst oil spill in human history. Wildlife is going extinct. We’ve had horrifying mass shootings and huge swaths of land are unlivable due to corruption and crime. We’re even actively participating in our certain demise by ignoring all signs of global warming even as we’re literally going under water. Clearly we are unfit to govern ourselves.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

What pathetic response? He's building an iron clad case brick by brick. Indicting
the 13 Russians this morning was a massive big balls move.

Huge juicy testicles. 13 unknown Russians down!!! VICTORY!!!