The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-13-2018, 01:11 PM

So, we have all heard of the cluster-f*ck that is Broward County, Florida and their elections. Well, yesterday, ballot boxes from the Broward County Supervisor Of Elections Office were found in an AVIS rental car at the Fort Lauderdale airport. An hour later, the airport was shut down by the bomb squad.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-13-2018, 01:12 PM

NOAM CHOMSKY Warns Of The Rise Of "Judeo-Nazi Tendencies" In Israel

Prominent Jewish intellectual Noam Chomsky has raised concerns over what he believes is the rise of “Judeo-Nazi tendencies” in Israel. Speaking to i24NEWS last week, the renowned political dissident, linguist and scholar repeated warnings given by Yeshayahu Leibowitz, an Israeli public intellectual, biochemist and polymath, concerning the dehumanizing effect of Israel’s brutal occupation of Palestine on the victims and the oppressors.

Chomsky commented on remarks by Leibowitz who was nominated for the Israel Prize saying that “Leibowitz warned that if the occupation continues, Israeli Jews are going to turn into what he called, Judeo-Nazis”. Chomsky recognized the description was a “strong term” and that most people wouldn’t be able to get away with describing Israel in this manner but explained that Leibowitz’s status meant that he was able to speak about Israel without incurring fury.

Leibowitz, who passed away in 1994 in Jerusalem, cautioned that the state of Israel and Zionism had become more sacred than Jewish humanist values and controversially went on to describe Israeli conduct in occupied Palestinian territories as “Judeo-Nazi” in nature.

Outraged by Israel’s killing of 60 villagers of Qibya in 1953, most of whom were women and children, by the notorious Israeli commando Unit 101, known for its brutality and retribution campaigns, Leibowitz has been quoted as saying:

"We have to ask ourselves where this youth of ours emerged from; young people who had no mental inhibitions about committing this atrocity? What inner motivation for such acts could have been at work here? This youth is not a mob, but the product of Zionist, humanist social education."

Echoing Leibowitz, Chomsky said: “If you have your jackboot on somebody’s neck, you have to find a way to justify it.” Repeating Leibowitz’s warning he added that “blaming the victim was a direct reflection of the continued occupation, the humiliation of people, the degradation, and the terrorist attacks by the Israeli government”.

The former MIT linguist said that being critical of the occupation in Israel today means being labeled a traitor, a phenomenon which has caused the left to virtually disappear from the political spectrum. He pointed to opposition to the situation in the Gaza Strip, which he likened to a concentration camp, as an example of the delegitimization of the left.

“Take Gaza. If you are going to place two million people in a concentration camp, which is in effect what it is, and put them under a vicious siege, you have to ask yourself; am I justified in doing this? People who try to oppose it are traitors, Arab lovers and so on. You have seen this phenomenon in European history, I don’t have to give you examples,” Chomsky said.

Speaking about a common myth in Israeli society that a military presence in the West Bank is necessary for security reasons, Chomsky dismissed that idea saying that the opposite is true; that “a military occupation” of the West Bank only endangers Israel’s security. “Ask any Israeli strategic analysts. They all understand that occupation of the West Bank is a threat to Israeli security.”

Chomsky went on to present a number of incidents where Arab leaders have offered Israel peace in return for withdrawal from the West Bank, all rejected by Israel. Israel, he told, i24NEWS is deliberately choosing expansion over security.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-13-2018, 01:34 PM

► Murdered Journalist KHASHOGGI's Last Words: "I’m suffocating. Take this bag off my head, I’m claustrophobic.”

^ Turkey's government plans to release the audio to the media, as well as images of the tools used to torture Khashoggi. It reportedly took 7 minutes for him to suffocate to death, before his body was dismembered and buried.

► Vaccine Safety Violations: RFK, JR. Wins Case Against U.S. Government

^ The Mandate For Safer Childhood Vaccines clause in the The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act Of 1986 compels the U.S. Department Of Health And Human Services [DHHS] to take responsibility for improving vaccine safety and efficacy, and charges the agency with constant monitoring and improvement of adverse event reporting, as well as providing a report on improvements made in these areas to Congress every 2 years.

RKF, Jr. suspected that DHHS was failing to meet this responsibility, and filed a Freedom Of Information Act request to obtain the records of these biennial reports. For 8 months, DHHS blocked the request and refused to provide information. Ultimately, a lawsuit had to be filed.

DHHS was forced to admit that it never submitted a single report to Congress detailing the improvements in vaccine safety for the entire 30+ year lifespan of the program. This speaks volumes to the seriousness by which vaccine safety is treated at DHHS, and heightens the concern that DHHS doesn’t have a clue as to the actual safety profile of the now 29 doses of vaccines forced on to children in their first year of life.

DHHS has chosen to focus on its obligation to increase vaccine uptake and defend against any claim that vaccines cause harm in the National Injury Vaccine Compensation Program [Vaccine Court] to such a degree that it has abandoned its vaccine safety responsibilities. If DHHS isn't even fulfilling the simple task of filing a biennial report on vaccine safety improvements, there is little hope that they are tackling the much harder job of actually improving vaccine safety.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-13-2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the notion that anyone that's critical of Israel must have your bigoted conspiracy nut angle is annoying, especially since part of the left is echoing it as well

My perceived "nuttiness" aside, the Israeli occupation of Palestine is horrible. You can use labels like "bigot" and "conspiracy" all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that Chomsky's assertions are correct. Violence breeds violence. Hate breeds hate.

Don't write off the message because you dislike the messenger. The fact that anyone has the gall to condone, or at the very least, not even speak out against Israel's behavior, is astounding.

If it was ANY other county on Earth doing these things, they would be lambasted, hated and sanctioned out the ass. But since it's a country of "Jews," they get a pass? That is Grade A horse $hit, and you know it.

Replace Isreali Jews with Iranian Muslims, and pretend that they were the ones using Palestinian kids for target practice, cutting off their electricity, poisoning their water, flooding their land with sewage, etc. How would you react then?

Ninetales · 11-13-2018, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

► Vaccine Safety Violations: RFK, JR. Wins Case Against U.S. Government

^ The Mandate For Safer Childhood Vaccines clause in the The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act Of 1986 compels the U.S. Department Of Health And Human Services [DHHS] to take responsibility for improving vaccine safety and efficacy, and charges the agency with constant monitoring and improvement of adverse event reporting, as well as providing a report on improvements made in these areas to Congress every 2 years.

RKF, Jr. suspected that DHHS was failing to meet this responsibility, and filed a Freedom Of Information Act request to obtain the records of these biennial reports. For 8 months, DHHS blocked the request and refused to provide information. Ultimately, a lawsuit had to be filed.

DHHS was forced to admit that it never submitted a single report to Congress detailing the improvements in vaccine safety for the entire 30+ year lifespan of the program. This speaks volumes to the seriousness by which vaccine safety is treated at DHHS, and heightens the concern that DHHS doesn’t have a clue as to the actual safety profile of the now 29 doses of vaccines forced on to children in their first year of life.

DHHS has chosen to focus on its obligation to increase vaccine uptake and defend against any claim that vaccines cause harm in the National Injury Vaccine Compensation Program [Vaccine Court] to such a degree that it has abandoned its vaccine safety responsibilities. If DHHS isn't even fulfilling the simple task of filing a biennial report on vaccine safety improvements, there is little hope that they are tackling the much harder job of actually improving vaccine safety.

this is completely untrue. like.. everything in your post is factually false.

you can find the entire case that this article references here

but sparknotes: the complaint was filed due to DHHS not responding to an FOIA form submitted. This action was voluntarily dismissed less than three months after it was filed

**Frownland** · 11-13-2018, 02:20 PM

It's good to know that [MERIT] is so passionate about bureaucratic functions though.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-13-2018, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninetales

this is completely untrue. like.. everything in your post is factually false.

you can find the entire case that this article references here

but sparknotes: the complaint was filed due to DHHS not responding to an FOIA form submitted. This action was voluntarily dismissed less than three months after it was filed

Well, that link details the actions taken in the case. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services admitted that they never filed the required reports to Congress.

Ninetales · 11-13-2018, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services admitted that they never filed the required reports to Congress.

no, that is not true. the complaint (and later dismissed) was ushered due to no response (due to an appeal) being made to the submitted FOIA form. the lack of response or appeal to this form is not even close to the same as no reports have ever been undertaken, completed or filed.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-13-2018, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninetales

no, that is not true. the complaint (and later dismissed) was ushered due to no response (due to an appeal) being made to the submitted FOIA form. the lack of response or appeal to this form is not even close to the same as no reports have ever been undertaken, completed or filed.

Every news article I can find about this CLEARLY states that the DHHS failed to live up to their obligations under The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act Of 1986. DHHS even admitted that they didn't file the reports.

So, please show me the reports so that I can eat some crow and apologize for being wrong, or stop.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-13-2018, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor

Saudi Arabia?

not exactly ****ing surprising that the US looks the other way when our allies commit atrocities

The Khashoggi murder definitely threw a wrench into the gears of Saudi / U.S. relationship.

Saudi Arabia has given Palestine $100 MILLION this year to help build their infrastructure. This will definitely piss off the U.S. and Israel.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...he-pa-treasury

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...nian-authority

11-13-2018, 01:12 PM	#15402 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	NOAM CHOMSKY Warns Of The Rise Of "Judeo-Nazi Tendencies" In Israel NOAM CHOMSKY Warns Of The Rise Of "Judeo-Nazi Tendencies" In Israel Prominent Jewish intellectual Noam Chomsky has raised concerns over what he believes is the rise of “Judeo-Nazi tendencies” in Israel. Speaking to i24NEWS last week, the renowned political dissident, linguist and scholar repeated warnings given by Yeshayahu Leibowitz, an Israeli public intellectual, biochemist and polymath, concerning the dehumanizing effect of Israel’s brutal occupation of Palestine on the victims and the oppressors. Chomsky commented on remarks by Leibowitz who was nominated for the Israel Prize saying that “Leibowitz warned that if the occupation continues, Israeli Jews are going to turn into what he called, Judeo-Nazis”. Chomsky recognized the description was a “strong term” and that most people wouldn’t be able to get away with describing Israel in this manner but explained that Leibowitz’s status meant that he was able to speak about Israel without incurring fury. Leibowitz, who passed away in 1994 in Jerusalem, cautioned that the state of Israel and Zionism had become more sacred than Jewish humanist values and controversially went on to describe Israeli conduct in occupied Palestinian territories as “Judeo-Nazi” in nature. Outraged by Israel’s killing of 60 villagers of Qibya in 1953, most of whom were women and children, by the notorious Israeli commando Unit 101, known for its brutality and retribution campaigns, Leibowitz has been quoted as saying: "We have to ask ourselves where this youth of ours emerged from; young people who had no mental inhibitions about committing this atrocity? What inner motivation for such acts could have been at work here? This youth is not a mob, but the product of Zionist, humanist social education." Echoing Leibowitz, Chomsky said: “If you have your jackboot on somebody’s neck, you have to find a way to justify it.” Repeating Leibowitz’s warning he added that “blaming the victim was a direct reflection of the continued occupation, the humiliation of people, the degradation, and the terrorist attacks by the Israeli government”. The former MIT linguist said that being critical of the occupation in Israel today means being labeled a traitor, a phenomenon which has caused the left to virtually disappear from the political spectrum. He pointed to opposition to the situation in the Gaza Strip, which he likened to a concentration camp, as an example of the delegitimization of the left. “Take Gaza. If you are going to place two million people in a concentration camp, which is in effect what it is, and put them under a vicious siege, you have to ask yourself; am I justified in doing this? People who try to oppose it are traitors, Arab lovers and so on. You have seen this phenomenon in European history, I don’t have to give you examples,” Chomsky said. Speaking about a common myth in Israeli society that a military presence in the West Bank is necessary for security reasons, Chomsky dismissed that idea saying that the opposite is true; that “a military occupation” of the West Bank only endangers Israel’s security. “Ask any Israeli strategic analysts. They all understand that occupation of the West Bank is a threat to Israeli security.” Chomsky went on to present a number of incidents where Arab leaders have offered Israel peace in return for withdrawal from the West Bank, all rejected by Israel. Israel, he told, i24NEWS is deliberately choosing expansion over security.

11-13-2018, 02:20 PM	#15406 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	It's good to know that [MERIT] is so passionate about bureaucratic functions though. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-13-2018, 01:11 PM	#15401 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	So, we have all heard of the cluster-fck that is Broward County, Florida and their elections. Well, yesterday, ballot boxes from the Broward County Supervisor Of Elections Office were found in an AVIS rental car* at the Fort Lauderdale airport. An hour later, the airport was shut down by the bomb squad.

11-13-2018, 01:34 PM	#15403 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	► Murdered Journalist KHASHOGGI's Last Words: "I’m suffocating. Take this bag off my head, I’m claustrophobic.” ^ Turkey's government plans to release the audio to the media, as well as images of the tools used to torture Khashoggi. It reportedly took 7 minutes for him to suffocate to death, before his body was dismembered and buried. ► *Vaccine Safety Violations: RFK, JR.* Wins Case Against U.S. Government** ^ The Mandate For Safer Childhood Vaccines clause in the The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act Of 1986 compels the U.S. Department Of Health And Human Services [DHHS] to take responsibility for improving vaccine safety and efficacy, and charges the agency with constant monitoring and improvement of adverse event reporting, as well as providing a report on improvements made in these areas to Congress every 2 years. RKF, Jr. suspected that DHHS was failing to meet this responsibility, and filed a Freedom Of Information Act request to obtain the records of these biennial reports. For 8 months, DHHS blocked the request and refused to provide information. Ultimately, a lawsuit had to be filed. DHHS was forced to admit that it never submitted a single report to Congress detailing the improvements in vaccine safety for the entire 30+ year lifespan of the program. This speaks volumes to the seriousness by which vaccine safety is treated at DHHS, and heightens the concern that DHHS doesn’t have a clue as to the actual safety profile of the now 29 doses of vaccines forced on to children in their first year of life. DHHS has chosen to focus on its obligation to increase vaccine uptake and defend against any claim that vaccines cause harm in the National Injury Vaccine Compensation Program [Vaccine Court] to such a degree that it has abandoned its vaccine safety responsibilities. If DHHS isn't even fulfilling the simple task of filing a biennial report on vaccine safety improvements, there is little hope that they are tackling the much harder job of actually improving vaccine safety.