Indecision 2008 -what do you think????? (country, American, Religious, classics)

Son of JayJamJah · 09-15-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WendyCal

You know, surprisingly enough, there is a school of thought that actually combines the two theories...

If i might be allowed to quote from (thump?) my Bible?

'But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day;' -- 2 Peter 3:8, NASB

i believe in both. i believe God made it all ~ i just don't believe that we can presume to know how long a day is to a Being that is beyond the bounds of time.

No the term day as well as year are translated to be the equivalent of modern measurements. The original translation uses terminology that translates to sunset, so obviously that's a day. The Bible is of course completely fictional, there is of course NO GOD, or that is to say all religions are wrong. Could there be a superior being of course, was Jesus his son, of course not, are religious people liars, of course.

Religious nuts have tried to interpret their way out of the bibles horrible historical inaccuracies and it's awful sexist, hateful and homophobic passages, but in the end it is what it is, a fictional book written by a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths who lived in a cruel, barbaric and ****ed up world. End of story.

Double X · 09-15-2008, 08:35 PM

Except the bible isn't the final word on anything. It was God's word interpreted by men, and I don't think the people that assembled the bible can be trusted to tell everything accurately, as they most likely missed and exaggerated many things.

~~The Unfan~~ · 09-15-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WendyCal

Just one quick secular reason: Remember i mentioned going to nursing school and doing private duty nursing for years? Well, without getting in too 'deep,' as it were,

, it's unnatural. i wouldn't be for Beastial marriage, either.

I don't think "natural" is the word you're looking for. Natural means occuring within nature. Homosexuality most definitely occurs in nature. It isn't artificial. It isn't like the TV transmits ***waves to warp the mind, or like doctors are diabolically implanting homo chips into the brains of new borns. Therefore this leads us to conclude it is either natural or super natural. However, since super natural events don't ever occur (because if it occurs it becomes natural or is the result of artificial advancements) we must conclude that it is natural. That combined that we know why homosexuality occurs makes your argument pretty damn stupid. Its just a genetic trait.

anticipation · 09-15-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

No the term day as well as year are translated to be the equivalent of modern measurements. The original translation uses terminology that translates to sunset, so obviously that's a day. The Bible is of course completely fictional, there is of course NO GOD, or that is to say all religions are wrong. Could there be a superior being of course, was Jesus his son, of course not, are religious people liars, of course.

Religious nuts have tried to interpret their way out of the bibles horrible historical inaccuracies and it's awful sexist, hateful and homophobic passages, but in the end it is what it is, a fictional book written by a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths who lived in a cruel, barbaric and ****ed up world. End of story.

seconded.

Son of JayJamJah · 09-15-2008, 08:42 PM

Of course homosexuality is natural, just as infertility is natural, not everyone is meant to reproduce nor required to for purposes of the species carrying on. That's a retarded religious talking point.

You can only be against homosexuality if your are an ignorant and\or self centered person. It does not effect you and it's none of your business.

~~The Unfan~~ · 09-15-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WendyCal

Do i really have to explain to you that sex was supposed to be for procreation, and that we, like, 'fit together' a certain way to make that happen?

The butt is nicely shaped for sex too.

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i would be against someone marrying their cat/dog/pet. Give me a break, here ~ it was the first thing came to mind.

Why? If you could prove the animal was of the age of consent, was capable of consenting, and did in fact consent than why would it be wrong?

Son of JayJamJah · 09-15-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WendyCal

Excuse me??? Murder occurs in nature. Are you down with thinking that's NATURAL??? yikes

Hey, i'm trying to think of anywhere homosexuality takes place in nature, other than in humans, but i'm at a loss. Are there any?

*** Ass Animals

Link one of a possible 10 million.

lucifer_sam · 09-15-2008, 10:10 PM

This conversation is going nowhere fast and is not relevant to the upcoming election.

Mods, please make a separate thread/merge this into a debate thread. It's getting outta hand.

sleepy jack · 09-15-2008, 11:24 PM

I'd consider this discussion pretty relevant to the upcoming election considering Sarah Palin feels creationism should be taught in school, the Iraq is a holy war, abortion isn't the answer in any case (including rape and incest) and she's anti-gay.

sleepy jack · 09-15-2008, 11:49 PM

So if you believe in seperation of church and state how can you turn around and say homosexuality is abnormal and say you only believe this because your creator (not our creator) says so?

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09-15-2008, 08:35 PM	#352 (permalink)
Double X sleepe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: boston Posts: 1,140	Except the bible isn't the final word on anything. It was God's word interpreted by men, and I don't think the people that assembled the bible can be trusted to tell everything accurately, as they most likely missed and exaggerated many things.