This I Believe There is / is not a God

Barnard17 · 12-13-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

You can not deconstruct God, because God is not made of parts.

If that was an attempt at humour, I suggest you not consider stand up comedy as a career path available to you.

Terrible Lizard · 12-13-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnard17

If that was an attempt at humour, I suggest you not consider stand up comedy as a career path available to you.

On the contrary, I think he would kill.

Meph1986 · 12-28-2009, 01:59 PM

How Religious Is Your State?

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I live in the 20th most religious, Florida. Not bad, especially considering its location in the south.

midnight rain · 12-28-2009, 02:19 PM

My state ranks right below the national average which disappoints me.

I've always believed in God as I was raised that way. I also think debating religion is overall pointless as you can neither prove nor disprove God with evidence, hence the emphasis on "faith" in Christianity.

Inuzuka Skysword · 12-29-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

I've always believed in God as I was raised that way. I also think debating religion is overall pointless as you can neither prove nor disprove God with evidence, hence the emphasis on "faith" in Christianity.

It is pointless to you because you can never convert anybody. If that is your view, then debating anything is pointless because anyone can make a faith-based claim on anything and, according to you, you can't touch them.

2 + 2 = 5.

You can't prove me wrong because it is my faith.

midnight rain · 12-29-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

It is pointless to you because you can never convert anybody. If that is your view, then debating anything is pointless because anyone can make a faith-based claim on anything and, according to you, you can't touch them.

2 + 2 = 5.

You can't prove me wrong because it is my faith.

My aim was never to convert anybody, just simply to state my beliefs as the thread asks of us. No need for animosity. Do you have evidence that God doesn't exist?

Inuzuka Skysword · 12-29-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

My aim was never to convert anybody, just simply to state my beliefs as the thread asks of us. No need for animosity. Do you have evidence that God doesn't exist?

I didn't say converting was the aim of this thread. When I meant that your aim was to convert people I didn't even mean to sound as though I am only talking about religion. If what you want out of a debate is simply two people arguing until someone admits they are wrong then I think you are missing out on what an informal debate is.

What I am saying is that an informal debate goes beyond the other person admitting they are wrong. Even if they never change their beliefs it is still worth doing if you feel you can learn something.

As for the question of whether I have evidence that God doesn't exist, I don't have to have evidence. The burden of proof is on those who claim there is a god.

I don't care so much about the argument about whether God exists or not. I care more about why someone should believe/not believe in its existence.

midnight rain · 12-29-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

I didn't say converting was the aim of this thread. When I meant that your aim was to convert people I didn't even mean to sound as though I am only talking about religion. If what you want out of a debate is simply two people arguing until someone admits they are wrong then I think you are missing out on what an informal debate is.

What I am saying is that an informal debate goes beyond the other person admitting they are wrong. Even if they never change their beliefs it is still worth doing if you feel you can learn something.

As for the question of whether I have evidence that God doesn't exist, I don't have to have evidence. The burden of proof is on those who claim there is a god.

I don't care so much about the argument about whether God exists or not. I care more about why someone should believe/not believe in its existence.

My mistake for misinterpreting you. I don't have factual evidence of God's existence and when it comes to the burden of proof, I'm not out to change anyone's mind (or my own, for that matter), so I don't think I should hold the burden. Anything I could say regarding my belief in God would be personal examples, and thus, not beneficial to this discussion. This is all said in a nice tone, by the way, no anger. Hope that made some sense.

Coffee · 01-01-2010, 05:53 PM

Dont believe in any god, mystical creatures, faith healing, psychic abilities and other nonsense. But Im fine with whatever anyone else believes, as long as they dont try to force it on me or anyone else or juse it as excuse to do something stupid.

icarus_3 · 01-03-2010, 07:10 PM

It's like I had an ephiphany today, and decided solipsism is the one true religion. It is a belief that only my mind exists and all else is an illusion, sort of like the matrix idea in the movie. The belief can't be proven or disproven anymore than any other religious idea, so I'm going to consider it true and try to walk in it. That means I am God! I created everything and put myself in this fake reality to entertain myslef and try to feel alive because I'm totally bored on the spirit plane where I am everything and know everything and am totally alone...very lonely so I created all you illusions to interact with me. Life is hell to me, as I suffer alone in my thoughts about this idea. No matter how many other illusions I interact with, I am still alone in my thoughts. I should have created humans with the ability to read minds, so I would feel all of you are real by reading your minds, but that would be an illusion too. I wish I could go into nonexistence, but I am immortal and can't die. That's why this world has so much suffering and pain, because it is a projection of my mind and I am suffering the pain of being alone. I don't even have a mate to reproduce with. I will always be alone, for I cannot reproduce after my own kind. That's the one thing God can't do. The nearest thing I could do was create this illusionary world...so interact with me illusions. Tell me something I don't know! Or am I saying all this for the benefit of you who is reading it. For if solipsism is true, then I am an illusion and you who are reading the right now are the only one that exists. I'm just giving you some hints about the nature of reality, which of course, you predestined I would do at this time for you by posting this message....

12-28-2009, 01:59 PM	#423 (permalink)
Meph1986 How High? Join Date: May 2008 Location: FL Posts: 684	How Religious Is Your State? Pew Forum: How Religious Is Your State? I live in the 20th most religious, Florida. Not bad, especially considering its location in the south. __________________

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Coffee Groupie Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6	Dont believe in any god, mystical creatures, faith healing, psychic abilities and other nonsense. But Im fine with whatever anyone else believes, as long as they dont try to force it on me or anyone else or juse it as excuse to do something stupid. Last edited by Coffee; 01-01-2010 at 06:03 PM.

01-03-2010, 07:10 PM	#430 (permalink)
icarus_3 Groupie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1	solipsism is the one true religion.... It's like I had an ephiphany today, and decided solipsism is the one true religion. It is a belief that only my mind exists and all else is an illusion, sort of like the matrix idea in the movie. The belief can't be proven or disproven anymore than any other religious idea, so I'm going to consider it true and try to walk in it. That means I am God! I created everything and put myself in this fake reality to entertain myslef and try to feel alive because I'm totally bored on the spirit plane where I am everything and know everything and am totally alone...very lonely so I created all you illusions to interact with me. Life is hell to me, as I suffer alone in my thoughts about this idea. No matter how many other illusions I interact with, I am still alone in my thoughts. I should have created humans with the ability to read minds, so I would feel all of you are real by reading your minds, but that would be an illusion too. I wish I could go into nonexistence, but I am immortal and can't die. That's why this world has so much suffering and pain, because it is a projection of my mind and I am suffering the pain of being alone. I don't even have a mate to reproduce with. I will always be alone, for I cannot reproduce after my own kind. That's the one thing God can't do. The nearest thing I could do was create this illusionary world...so interact with me illusions. Tell me something I don't know! Or am I saying all this for the benefit of you who is reading it. For if solipsism is true, then I am an illusion and you who are reading the right now are the only one that exists. I'm just giving you some hints about the nature of reality, which of course, you predestined I would do at this time for you by posting this message....

12-28-2009, 02:19 PM	#424 (permalink)
midnight rain Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,711	My state ranks right below the national average which disappoints me. I've always believed in God as I was raised that way. I also think debating religion is overall pointless as you can neither prove nor disprove God with evidence, hence the emphasis on "faith" in Christianity.