This I Believe There is / is not a God (Religious, cover)

Barnard17 · 10-26-2009, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I think JesseB5446 was on the right track; in Christianity God is Love. So if she proves one she proves the other.

Strawman argument. You assume God to be true, ergo love can be true. People who do not believe in God are still able to believe and consider love, it just doesn't conform to your perception of it.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Are constucting your own Grand Narrative where you are right and JesseB5446, Christianity and all other religions are wrong?

Where have I constructed a Grand Narrative in the slightest?

She invoked Pascal's Wager as a reason to read the Bible and consider it as a theologically truthful work. My point was that with all the other Grand Narrative religions claiming a monopoly on the truth to really work Pascal's Wager you have to do a LOT of reading and get in the pockets of a stupendous amount of Gods. Otherwise you're hedging your bets on one horse when there's fifty others running all with equally good odds. How is your response AT ALL relevant to what I said?

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Karl Marx lead to Marxist Writings, Marx Writing lead to Marxist Communism and Marxist Communism lead to Communist Regimes that are responsible for majority of the 20th century democide and genocide. Communism is responsible the more deaths then any political ideology in the history of mankind. Is that what you meant by "vital role?"

Yes, pretty much as explained in the second half of the sentence after the section you put in bold.

If we ignore the whole "'Communist' Regimes=/=Communism" argument, considerate of the fact that any Totalitarian Government has always been about the will of their supreme leader more than any relevance it keeps to the ideological views they purport in an attempt to gain popular support. Surely the fact that Marx and Engel's writings have been so heavily influential make them important texts to study when you take on board immediate global history and ongoing international politics, such as Cuba and China? By no means are they the inconsequential triflings that Jesse seems to imply.