This I Believe There is / is not a God (Religious, cover)

Bloozcrooz · 01-04-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I understand.
Personally, though, I try to do what's right simply because it has a positive effect on myself and others. I don't view morality and ethics as a price to pay in order to achieve or evade something. I don't believe in heaven or hell, but if I did, I would think there wouldn't be a reward for someone who only has good in his heart due to a fear of eternal punishment, or want of a heavenly prize. There's no integrity there.
Seems to me, the point should be the actions and not the results.

Dont mistake my motivations foundation. The Heaven would be a perk as would be avoiding hell. As humans we naturally know right from wrong..well most of us. Yes the desire to do good things is for good of humanity. Im not trying to compromise my integrity here with whats promised and consequence. I hope thats not how that came across.

Freebase Dali · 01-05-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

Dont mistake my motivations foundation. The Heaven would be a perk as would be avoiding hell. As humans we naturally know right from wrong..well most of us. Yes the desire to do good things is for good of humanity. Im not trying to compromise my integrity here with whats promised and consequence. I hope thats not how that came across.

Nah, it wasn't really aimed at you but your comment brought the subject up in my mind. Unfortunately a lot of people are like that (doing good only for the "heaven" benefit), and I've met my fair share, and it's sad because a lot of people like that are nowhere near as genuine and trustworthy as people I know who've never even laid a hand on a bible or been to church.