Oh yay, another political thread! (Prop 8, gay marriage stuff)

~~The Unfan~~ · 11-24-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

Good convo..
Western society was built upon 'the family' and marrige...
Im kind of used to the fact that ***s can marry and whatever, it doesnt bother me any more. But i do think that it is making something (marrige/the family) that our countries were built upon into a meaningless farse.
i dont understand why people need to feel like they are accepted by society (***s being allowed to get married) when they know that they arent..if this PC cycle of looking out for the minority continues we are going to have every weird little group with their strange ideas wanting new legislation and laws to cater to their needs and wants.
just putting the other side out there...

America (**** the rest of the western civilization!) was founded on freedom from religion and tea taxes. Family has nothing to do with either and it is important to get rid of all religious notions of what marriage stands for in context of how the government treats marriage. Once you do that, then the only issue ever should be consent. If people consent to being married it should be their right. Any other stance on the issue is just bigoted.

adidasss · 11-24-2008, 03:59 PM

kaleidoscope.. · 11-24-2008, 04:40 PM

Its not a matter of civil rights..... sorry to surprise you but there is right and wrong...there is absolute truth... not everyone can go around doing whatever they want..

**Janszoon** · 11-24-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

Its not a matter of civil rights..... sorry to surprise you but there is right and wrong...there is absolute truth... not everyone can go around doing whatever they want..

You just referred to the "PC cycle of looking out for the minority". Do you disagree that most civil rights battles have involved minorities?

Anteater · 11-24-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

You just referred to the "PC cycle of looking out for the minority". Do you disagree that most civil rights battles have involved minorities?

Its all lies. Everyone tries to keep the white man down these days!!

**Janszoon** · 11-24-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Its all lies. Everyone tries to keep the white man down these days!!

anticipation · 11-24-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

Its not a matter of civil rights..... sorry to surprise you but there is right and wrong...there is absolute truth... not everyone can go around doing whatever they want..

sorry to suprise you but there is no right and wrong, there is no absolute truth, and everyone does go around doing whatever they want.

seriously, is there some giant boulder that the collective public with social and emotional iq's below 70 all live under?

simplephysics · 11-24-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

seriously, is there some giant boulder that the collective public with social and emotional iq's below 70 all live under?

church.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 11-24-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

Its not a matter of civil rights..... sorry to surprise you but there is right and wrong...there is absolute truth... not everyone can go around doing whatever they want..

hahahahahahaha

Tobias · 11-24-2008, 06:01 PM

Holy crap. And here I thought we were going to have an intelligent conversation, maybe even a civil one. Oh well...hopeful wishing eh?

Anyways...it seems pro-love has won this round...again. Some very good points have arised, and once again the opposition has failed to issue an un-bigoted, un-biased, truelly intelligent counter to the table.

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Tobias Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 60	Holy crap. And here I thought we were going to have an intelligent conversation, maybe even a civil one. Oh well...hopeful wishing eh? Anyways...it seems pro-love has won this round...again. Some very good points have arised, and once again the opposition has failed to issue an un-bigoted, un-biased, truelly intelligent counter to the table.