Oh yay, another political thread! (Prop 8, gay marriage stuff)

[TheBig3]

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61897387

apparently Prince hates *** marrige too.

[streetwaves]

I didn't know Prince was stupid.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by streetwaves

I didn't know Prince was stupid.

No he's not. He's entitled to his opinion, just as you are...IMO

Preferences and orientation aside though, it was proven quite some time ago that AIDS (and other STDs for that matter), are far more prevalant between homosexual coupled-activities than other kinds of couplings due to the anal sex emphasis in the former. Its not good evidence against ***-marriage, but its a common point of argument for those that are against it.

[adidasss]

Originally Posted by Anteater

No he's not. He's entitled to his opinion, just as you are...IMO

Preferences and orientation aside though, it was proven quite some time ago that AIDS (and other STDs for that matter), are far more prevalant between homosexual coupled-activities than other kinds of couplings due to the anal sex emphasis in the former. Its not good evidence against ***-marriage, but its a common point of argument for those that are against it.

That's an argument against homosexuality, not gay marriage. Also, anal sex isn't any more likely to lead to infection than regular sex. The cause you're looking for is promiscuity and lack of protection. This is why all those very straight people in Africa are dying from it...

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Anteater

No he's not. He's entitled to his opinion, just as you are...IMO

Preferences and orientation aside though, it was proven quite some time ago that AIDS (and other STDs for that matter), are far more prevalent between homosexual coupled-activities than other kinds of couplings due to the anal sex emphasis in the former. Its not good evidence against ***-marriage, but its a common point of argument for those that are against it.

That's pretty weak argument for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that fact that lesbians have a much lower incidence of HIV than heterosexuals. Then of course that the fact that marriage by it's very nature is about monogamy. STDs don't really get spread around among people who only have one sexual partner.

[Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01]

Words of wisdom about Gay marriage by The Voice of the Soul;


Well, maybe not wisdom, but definitely my own opinion.

I personally think there is no good reason to ban *** marriage, and every argument I've heard against it is ridiculous;

Marriage is a sacred institution; Bull****. If marriage were so sacred, why do we have divorces, adultery, marriages for green card purposes? The Christians need to take the blind fold off and realize nothing is sacred in this world, and a couple of ***s getting married pales insignificant to, say, all the gold diggers in this world with their hands firmly around the balls of some rich bastard.

Legalizing *** marriage give ***s special rights straight people don't have; I read somewhere some guy said that ***s DO have the right to marry... the opposite gender. They have a right to marry, the same right that straight people have, so supposedly there is no discrimination. I'm thinking "This is ****ing stupid." It gets better; He also said by legalizing *** marriage, we would be giving ***s the "special right" to marry people of the same gender. Suppose this is true. It wouldn't be a special right. Straight people would have the same right to marry people of the same sex as well if *** marriage was legalized. Even with that in mind, WHY would that happen? A straight man isn't going to marry another man no sooner than a *** man is going to marry a woman.

*** marriage will create a slippery slope to legalized bestiality, polygamy, and incest; Oh yeah, because when I think of sodomy in wedlock, I think "Y'know what would make this better? A cowboy banging his life partner/horse while his wife/sister is sucking it off." Bestiality won't be legalized because society still looks upon that as animal abuse. Plus, seeing as how an animal can't legally consent to having sex, it still couldn't work. Incest.... y'can't really stop incest, by law or otherwise. It's going to happen whether you legalize *** marriage or not, and yes I think it's disgusting, but I think *** sex is disgusting. My thoughts shouldn't stop other people from doing it.

However, while I think it's wrong for the government to even conceive a ban of *** marriage, doing the opposite would be just as unconstitutional. Forcing the Church to do something that goes against their beliefs, no matter how discriminating it may be, is a violation of their First Amendment rights. In Christianity, homosexuality is a sin, and if they don't want to condone it, who are we to force them to believe as we do? We'd be no better than them. Freedom is a two way street. If a priest or a minister decides on his own to marry two *** people, that's great, but they shouldn't be forced to do it, nor should they be forced to not do it.

As far as civil unions go, the government is obligated to grant ***s this right. The government isn't influenced by a higher supernatural power (or isn't supposed to be), so religion or the freedom of religion doesn't apply.

I would say more, but I must get ready for work.

[simplephysics]

Gay marriage will create a slippery slope to legalized bestiality, polygamy, and incest.

This is bullshit.

[The Unfan]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Then of course that the fact that marriage by it's very nature is about monogamy.

No it isn't.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by The Unfan

No it isn't.

The kind of marriage being being discussed with regards to same-sex marriage is. Right now polygamous marriages aren't even entering into the public discourse except as a scare tactic.

[TheBig3]

I don't think he's stupid for having an opinion, but rather the manner in which he voiced it.

When people try to break down political philosophy to simplistic terms like they've figured it all out, that generally denotes mental incompetence or laziness.