2012

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 07-07-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

Well they're making a movie about it, so you know it's real.

Yeah, and it completely dwells on the negative unfortunately, it's a lot like Religulous in that respect, but I think like Religulous, will at least help open up people's minds a little bit.
I don't even know if I'm going to see it, I hate doom and gloom s*$%

Miltamec Soundsquinaez · 07-07-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour

YouTube - Michio Kaku 2012 Solar Storm Warning

why do people keep bringing up this higher dimensions talk anyways. Where do you get this from?

I'm reluctant to even say, cuz it's like a 2 hr. video. Go to Youtube, and watch 2012 Enigma, some really great information in there. It will blow your mind some of the things he talks about in there.

LOL, you're from MO, too. I'm from Carthage-Joplin. Cool to know there are some open minded folks there. I'm in Iowa right now.....crazy how it's one of the most progressive states in the last 10 yrs. or so.

Michio Kaku, one of the most respected physicists of today, said in that video, the solar storms (or the effect on Earth) will be 20 times worse than originially predicted. Also, he said many other physicists were onto the same thing. Good vid. I know the storms take about 6 hrs. to reach Earth, and in that time they will turn off satellites to lessen the damage, but it all depends on how direct the CME's and solar flares are, and how strong our electromagnetic field is. They could still fry the satellites even with the power off.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-07-2009, 09:11 PM

I am willing to bet anyone here any amount of the money that the world will still exist after 2012.

Any Takers...? Paypal is fine.

Darkest Hour · 07-07-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Miltamec Soundsquinaez

I'm reluctant to even say, cuz it's like a 2 hr. video. Go to Youtube, and watch 2012 Enigma, some really great information in there. It will blow your mind some of the things he talks about in there.

LOL, you're from MO, too. I'm from Carthage-Joplin. Cool to know there are some open minded folks there. I'm in Iowa right now.....crazy how it's one of the most progressive states in the last 10 yrs. or so.

Michio Kaku, one of the most respected physicists of today, said in that video, the solar storms (or the effect on Earth) will be 20 times worse than originially predicted. Also, he said many other physicists were onto the same thing. Good vid. I know the storms take about 6 hrs. to reach Earth, and in that time they will turn off satellites to lessen the damage, but it all depends on how direct the CME's and solar flares are, and how strong our electromagnetic field is. They could still fry the satellites even with the power off.

alright. I will watch it in a few minutes.

Darkest Hour · 07-07-2009, 09:43 PM

wow, i'm only on the first vid and this is very interesting.

boo boo · 07-07-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I'm sure its been said, but 2012 is when the final cycle in a series will be complete. Something like 100 or 1000. So its based on astrological science.

Also, to discredit the Mayans isn't historically logical. You're talking about one of the major civilizations, existing at a time when technology wasn't advancing the cause. I don't know if people would easily dismiss the Roman, Persian, or Zulu empires as easily.

Tell me just how the world ending for no pariticular reason on a specific date in time that was predicted by people who couldn't even predict their own downfall is based on scientific fact.

Oh wait, astrological science? Give me a break, that's not science.

Freebase Dali · 07-07-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour

wow, i'm only on the first vid and this is very interesting.

That doesn't tell us much...

Darkest Hour · 07-07-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Miltamec Soundsquinaez

I'm reluctant to even say, cuz it's like a 2 hr. video. Go to Youtube, and watch 2012 Enigma, some really great information in there. It will blow your mind some of the things he talks about in there.

LOL, you're from MO, too. I'm from Carthage-Joplin. Cool to know there are some open minded folks there. I'm in Iowa right now.....crazy how it's one of the most progressive states in the last 10 yrs. or so.

Michio Kaku, one of the most respected physicists of today, said in that video, the solar storms (or the effect on Earth) will be 20 times worse than originially predicted. Also, he said many other physicists were onto the same thing. Good vid. I know the storms take about 6 hrs. to reach Earth, and in that time they will turn off satellites to lessen the damage, but it all depends on how direct the CME's and solar flares are, and how strong our electromagnetic field is. They could still fry the satellites even with the power off.

just watched the whole thing.

But how are you supposed to believe anything he said? Where is the proof? I was particularly interested and convinced about the first 3 segments, where he kept talking about the pine cone and pineal gland, but the rest i didn't understand.

Neapolitan · 07-08-2009, 12:46 AM

Yeah I heard every thing is supposed to break down around December, 2012.

I heard all household appliances are going to breakdown that day, old VCRs, DVD players, TV flat screens, toasters, coffe makers, alarm clocks, radios, flash lights, i-pods, PS2, PS3, - all of it, they will all of sudden break down about the same time. Think about it, Vynils and CDs and MP3s will both expire in 2012, errie aint it?

I don't know how the older stuff will know when to break down, like the new stuff it could be programmed into it, but the older stuff there is no computer in it to control it. So I guess the engineers who built them used like differential calculus??? (because they didn't have computer back then, well not in the 30s or 40s, well at least before 1946 [well I don't know if the first computer was used for that application]) but maybe, they used calculus to know how strong something had to be, before it started breaking down at a specific time in their future, maybe it was integral calculus to figure out the longevity of the item. I remember hearing something about that. I don't know what the target date was, it's most likely Dec, 2012.

Did you ever notice the older stuff you own is sturdier then the new stuff you buy? Like the brooms I buy at the dollar store, the older brooms out-last the newer brooms, I don't know who they do it. If I drop a new broom, the cheap metal tubing they use as the handle just flattens out automaticaly. But the older brooms are made of bamboo and are sturdier, but I've seen some cracking starting, and I have a feeling the older brooms are going to break maybe around November of 2012, and then the new broom I buy will only last for a few days.

2012 - truth is stranger then fiction.

boo boo · 07-08-2009, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Miltamec Soundsquinaez

If I read this thread 6 months ago, I would have been pissed off, and attributed 2012 to fearmongering, and propaganda.

However, after reading a lot of the science surrounding it. I've come to a few conclusions.

First off, we will experience some of the worst solar storms in recorded history. The Earth could be particularly susceptible in this time because it's suggested that the magnetic poles will be shifting, making our electromagnetic field weaker, and unable to shield much of the solar radiation.

The OP said, there's no religion to back this up, that's true I guess, if you discount the Chinese I Ching, the Hopi Indians, Nostradamus, The Bible and the Mayan(although they primarily based their predictions on science), they were known to take opiates to aid them in spiritual awakenings.

The Mayans are more accurate timekeepers than anyone else in recorded history, so I wouldn't discount them as charlatans, since they predicted that there would be a planetary alignment on 12/21/2012, and now you have scientists saying there will be a planetary alignment on 12/21/2012. They also said the sun would rise in a huge black hole on that day, and scientist now predict that there is a massive black hole in the middle of the Milky Way, and that is expected to be between the Earth and the Sun on 12/21/2012. Also, they predicted the end of their civilization hundreds of years in advance, and correctly predicted it due to Spanish conquistadoras. I'm not sure how they knew this by looking at the stars, probably the drugs.

If you believe in time travel, some have suggested that people have already traveled to the future and when they pass through 2012, they experience massive awareness and higher consciousness, like all the info. in the universe is available to them.

I think, like the Mayans, that it is a new birth, we will collectively shift to higher dimensions, and that is due to technology we have that will help us accomplish this at the appropriate time. There are extraterrestrial and extradimensional beings that want to see us undergo a smooth transformation.

When 2012 the movie comes out, it's speculated that the media will try and do a hatchet job on people who believe in it. If anything, the government doesn't want us to panic. I think they ramped up our fear for Y2K, because they understood there is science behind this. Y2K was such a monumental letdown in apocalyptic terms that no one takes this 2012 thing seriously. My advice is look into the science of it, before you go judging too far one way or the other.

Keep drinking the kool aid crazy boy.

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Neapolitan carpe musicam Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Les Barricades Mystérieuses Posts: 7,710	Yeah I heard every thing is supposed to break down around December, 2012. I heard all household appliances are going to breakdown that day, old VCRs, DVD players, TV flat screens, toasters, coffe makers, alarm clocks, radios, flash lights, i-pods, PS2, PS3, - all of it, they will all of sudden break down about the same time. Think about it, Vynils and CDs and MP3s will both expire in 2012, errie aint it? I don't know how the older stuff will know when to break down, like the new stuff it could be programmed into it, but the older stuff there is no computer in it to control it. So I guess the engineers who built them used like differential calculus??? (because they didn't have computer back then, well not in the 30s or 40s, well at least before 1946 [well I don't know if the first computer was used for that application]) but maybe, they used calculus to know how strong something had to be, before it started breaking down at a specific time in their future, maybe it was integral calculus to figure out the longevity of the item. I remember hearing something about that. I don't know what the target date was, it's most likely Dec, 2012. Did you ever notice the older stuff you own is sturdier then the new stuff you buy? Like the brooms I buy at the dollar store, the older brooms out-last the newer brooms, I don't know who they do it. If I drop a new broom, the cheap metal tubing they use as the handle just flattens out automaticaly. But the older brooms are made of bamboo and are sturdier, but I've seen some cracking starting, and I have a feeling the older brooms are going to break maybe around November of 2012, and then the new broom I buy will only last for a few days. 2012 - truth is stranger then fiction.