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Old 04-09-2009, 12:08 PM   #211 (permalink)
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The problem I have is that everytime i turn on the friggin news there is another priest/pasture in the limelight for being a freak show.
A show broadcasting a pasture... I'd watch it.
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Old 04-09-2009, 12:33 PM   #212 (permalink)
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A show broadcasting a pasture... I'd watch it.
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Sorry .. Must have had that Slaughter house thread on the mind
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Old 04-09-2009, 07:02 PM   #213 (permalink)
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If you can't follow the right path you will be damned to hell...

Seriously you can have faith in whatever you want..
I have my opinions and you have yours.

I do believe in spirits just not that they go to heaven. I would say what happens to us when we die is more like a lucid dream. Honestly zzz whos to say we are not already dead?

You're gonna throw that old staple of religious fear at somebody for telling you to get off their ass?
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Old 04-09-2009, 07:05 PM   #214 (permalink)
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You're gonna throw that old staple of religious fear at somebody for telling you to get off their ass?
I'm pretty sure thats still in affect... Or you could tell me why I'm wrong..
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Old 04-09-2009, 07:27 PM   #215 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure thats still in affect... Or you could tell me why I'm wrong..
What exactly is in effect?

I'm not going to tell you that "you're wrong" just because I disagree with you. You have your reasons for doing and saying whatever it is that you do, just as I do and everybody else on this site and around the world. That is to say everybody is right in their own mind unless its a matter of physical method to achieve a desired result.

But I can tell you why I disagree.

"Hell", as it exists in the realm of religious ideology, is to me, a threat promulgated by a deep-seated phobia usually instilled at a very young age. It's an Old Wives' Tale. And its that kind of brainwash that I desperately hope that mankind will lose it's taste for.
To me, a real Hell is a living Hell. One you know as you live it. Failing a loved one in a way that you can never ever compensate for or not attaining your life's greatest ambition are a couple of ideas I could imagine.
So. Your "Hell". The whole "Lake of Fire, Nine Circles, Fire-Everywhere-And-Yet-Its-Still-Dark" scenario? Threatening somebody with that just because they told you to mind your own business just seems like a dick move to me. That's why I don't agree with it.
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Old 04-09-2009, 08:32 PM   #216 (permalink)
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What exactly is in effect?

I'm not going to tell you that "you're wrong" just because I disagree with you. You have your reasons for doing and saying whatever it is that you do, just as I do and everybody else on this site and around the world. That is to say everybody is right in their own mind unless its a matter of physical method to achieve a desired result.

But I can tell you why I disagree.

"Hell", as it exists in the realm of religious ideology, is to me, a threat promulgated by a deep-seated phobia usually instilled at a very young age. It's an Old Wives' Tale. And its that kind of brainwash that I desperately hope that mankind will lose it's taste for.
To me, a real Hell is a living Hell. One you know as you live it. Failing a loved one in a way that you can never ever compensate for or not attaining your life's greatest ambition are a couple of ideas I could imagine.
So. Your "Hell". The whole "Lake of Fire, Nine Circles, Fire-Everywhere-And-Yet-Its-Still-Dark" scenario? Threatening somebody with that just because they told you to mind your own business just seems like a dick move to me. That's why I don't agree with it.
So what is heaven?
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Old 04-09-2009, 08:32 PM   #217 (permalink)
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Hugh Hefner's mansion
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Old 04-09-2009, 08:37 PM   #218 (permalink)
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Well in a religous sense..
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then what is hell? a D&D tornament?
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Old 04-09-2009, 08:41 PM   #220 (permalink)
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but what about someone believing that if someone else is not believing the same things as him or her is doomed, and when he dies his soul will cease to exist...what is a person who believes something like that?
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