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Old 04-03-2009, 11:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:06 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:09 AM   #23 (permalink)
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actually, i'm Christ. and the devil a bit too.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:29 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Well you obviously haven't met most of them...
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Yeah, its largely metaphorical and the Bible really shouldn't be your faith center. Its a spiritual thing, you ought to feel it. Not read it.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:08 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I am not a christian, but I do not have a problem with people who are christians. I was raised in a chistian family and was forced to go to church for the first 17 years f my life, which I did not enjoy. There is a few things that I find that dont add up and if you bring these things up and ask the question to a believer they dont have any real answer except for that you have faith or they answer a question you didnt even ask. So, in the book of Genesis it states that god created the heavens and the earth and everything in between and that was the beginning of everything we know today, supposedly the earth according to the bible is, I might be off a bit but, 6000 years old. Now, nowhere in the bible does it mention anything about dinosaurs, which sience has proved to be arund for billions of year, there has been physicall evidence to prove this as well, and when Noah built the ark, if he did, there was suposedly two of EVERY animal on the ark when the earth flooded, again, where were the dinosaurs?? Another things which seems odd is the thought that jesus is the son of god, when whoever has read the bible knows that jesus was born to mary and joseph, and even if joseph had not gotta mary pregnant and god did plant a seed in mary that still would not make jesus the son of god, god would have to drop his own seed from his body in order to make a son from mary, so that seems kind of weird to me, I mean I dont know its extremely hard to believe this stuff when there are so many things proving it wrong
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Another things which seems odd is the thought that jesus is the son of god, when whoever has read the bible knows that jesus was born to mary and joseph, and even if joseph had not gotta mary pregnant and god did plant a seed in mary that still would not make jesus the son of god, god would have to drop his own seed from his body in order to make a son from mary, so that seems kind of weird to me, I mean I dont know its extremely hard to believe this stuff when there are so many things proving it wrong
Also I've heard and learned in church that Jesus isn't the son of God but he is God just in a human form.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Also I've heard and learned in church that Jesus isn't the son of God but he is God just in a human form.
Yes I head this as well, It is another answer that doesnt really answer the question being asked when you bring it up to a believer, none of it makes any sence.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:18 PM   #28 (permalink)
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yes and that was a jewish church im guessing?
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yes and that was a jewish church im guessing?
I dont know if you talking to me, but I did not go to a jewish church.
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I am not a christian, but I do not have a problem with people who are christians. I was raised in a chistian family and was forced to go to church for the first 17 years f my life, which I did not enjoy. There is a few things that I find that dont add up and if you bring these things up and ask the question to a believer they dont have any real answer except for that you have faith or they answer a question you didnt even ask. So, in the book of Genesis it states that god created the heavens and the earth and everything in between and that was the beginning of everything we know today, supposedly the earth according to the bible is, I might be off a bit but, 6000 years old. Now, nowhere in the bible does it mention anything about dinosaurs, which sience has proved to be arund for billions of year, there has been physicall evidence to prove this as well, and when Noah built the ark, if he did, there was suposedly two of EVERY animal on the ark when the earth flooded, again, where were the dinosaurs?? Another things which seems odd is the thought that jesus is the son of god, when whoever has read the bible knows that jesus was born to mary and joseph, and even if joseph had not gotta mary pregnant and god did plant a seed in mary that still would not make jesus the son of god, god would have to drop his own seed from his body in order to make a son from mary, so that seems kind of weird to me, I mean I dont know its extremely hard to believe this stuff when there are so many things proving it wrong
Now this is the crux of the problem. (And I'm noy directing this at you schredds I'm just using your post to highlight some things)
The aspect of Christianity that surrounds placing your faith in the idea that Christ was any more or less divine or god-created than anyone else is a man-made and borrowed concept.
Fundamentalists and atheists alike put all of their energy into proving and disproving, respectively, the historical accuracy of and biological validity of supernatural events, and in that apologetic process the wisdom that is inherent in the gospels gets swept under the rug, because apparently its not about "loving thy neighbour as you would love yourself" its about how the hell is it possible that mary got knocked up by a deity......its not possible. We try to make it about whether or not Jesus was resurrected from the grave and not about the personal rebirth and transformation that we are all called to to elevate ourselves to our next level of enlightenment. and it's not about whether or not god exists,but whether our lives and society benefit from believing that he or she does.
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