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To the Question...How real is Christianity?

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THAT REAL

:laughing: Glad to see your wit around the boards again, JJJ.

Glad to see you moderating my attempts at wit.

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 648344)

To the Question...How real is Christianity?

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THAT REAL

Yep, I'm officially a believer now. . .

I think that it isn't a question of how real christianity is, just a question of how relevent it is...I can understand how in a pre-scientific society that it was a very relative and poignant source of hope for the unknown, all any religion seems to be, in essence, is a source of unrealistic hope for that which, fundamentally, is the one remaining unanswered question; where do we go when we die? Fear has created some beautiful and terrible aspects of our existance...unfortunately I believe religion of any description fills a big part of the latter category.

I for one look forward to the everlasting peace of turning to dust.

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit (Post 648142)

but how do you explain him being in the same suit he would be buried in? a suit I've never seen prior? and being a day after he actually died? did I just happen to be thinking of the color blue at the time and coincidentally he had just died and would be in that suit? again... I need to start playing the lottery now, I have some good mind trick abilities :)

Since you're asking, I'll provide you with a possible answer. Maybe you didn't dream of that exact suit, but when you saw it in the casket, you wanted it to be the same as from your dream. It's likely you have a conscious or subconcious motive for wanting to think so and maybe that motive has meddled with what you think you remember from your dream. It could be that you're aware of this, but convince yourself the suit was the same whenever you think about it. However, it could also be that you've been through it so many times that you've suggested to yourself a full-blown and believable false memory.

I don't think I would remember that kind of detail myself.

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit (Post 648077)

a 12 year old dreaming of his grandfather (prior to knowing of his death) waving goodbye in the suit (which I've never seen prior) he would be buried in? it's reaching pretty far to say coincidence, but if that helps your argument... sure, coincidence. I don't think so.

Also, twice, things slamming shut or falling on command from calling out the same dead relative could also be a coincidence. Believe it or not, something else is out there and it's easy to not think so... but when it faces you, you'd have to have your head up your butt to not acknowledge it. I'm guessing for those that think it's nonsense it never faced them... I understand that, I wouldn't believe it either.

This I don't expect anybody to believe but the person who told it to me is one of the most honest people I've ever encountered. Him and his friends were playing with a ouija board when they were younger on a very heavy metal table. They eventually asked the spirit they summoned to raise the table and the table began to rise to the point where they all had to stand while keeping there hands on the table. They all looked at each other and said "ok, who's doing this?" but the table was too heavy for somebody to be pretending to lift it. Eventually the table just slammed to the ground and that was the last time they fooled with the ouija board. Think that is a coincidence? I don't.

i wasnt saying that i dont believe there are spirits out there im just saying that its not that common for someone to see something and half the time when you do hear these stories its a bunch of royal bull, well my parents have told me about how they played with ouija board and they asked it what it would do if they took it out back and burned it and it spelt out vampire killer, and they didnt do it, thats a little weird yes, all im saying is that it can be coincidence and if its not than what would be coming to you in a dream telling you this? are you saying spirits can go into your dreams and control what you dream? than if thats true how do you know that a spirit doesn't do that everytime you dream instead of when you just have dreams like that

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 648624)

I've thought about this and what you are saying makes sense. I do remember knowing the color of the suit after the dream though, I remember when I went home that day after finding out he died thinking back to that dream and the details of it. The power of suggestion is strong, I'm sure as the years went on the dream may have gotten clearer and clearer as I tell the story, but the main contents of the dream were always as I dreamed them. The overall picture itself may have gotten exaggerated a bit.

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Originally Posted by pahuuuta (Post 648719)

you're right, who's to say we aren't being talked to by spirits in our dreams. Maybe they are trying to tell us what we should or shouldn't be doing with our lives. Maybe they are showing us things to come? who knows.

maybe they are being pricks and just putting stupid **** in our head lol