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Yukon Cornelius 04-04-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2 (Post 630294)
Hey give me 5 good reasons god is real, no bull crap i felt him in my heart or seen him in a tortilla give me 5 good solid reasons this is all true.
This is a subject i can own people at.

I'm agreeing with sleepy on this one..\\

You either have faith or you don't.. If you question it you don't .. If you post asking for people to prove it they cant.. That's where i agree with sleepy cause faith is what it is.. Faith Cory, Gotta have Faith, not physical evidence Faith..

midnight rain 04-04-2009 08:47 PM

Well sleepy jack, you seem to be another teen who has life all figured out and is more than happy to enlighten us

I take it your an atheist? Do you have proof that God doesn't exist?

sleepy jack 04-04-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz (Post 630312)
Well sleepy jack, you seem to be another teen who has life all figured out and is more than happy to enlighten us

I take it your an atheist? Do you have proof that God doesn't exist?

I find it funny that you treat it like I'm the one being arrogant here and yet you demand something of me that you yourself can't offer. I am not the one claiming anything exists or I know exactly what happens to me when I die. The burden of proof isn't on me it's on you.

Yukon Cornelius 04-04-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz (Post 630312)
Well sleepy jack, you seem to be another teen who has life all figured out and is more than happy to enlighten us

I take it your an atheist? Do you have proof that God doesn't exist?

That's not going to go well, I should know... :shycouch: I'm staying right here

I don't think sleepy is a teen btw

midnight rain 04-04-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 630314)
I find it funny that you treat it like I'm the one being arrogant here and yet you demand something of me that you yourself can't offer. I am not the one claiming anything exists or exactly what happens to me when I die. The burden of proof isn't on me it's on you.

No, it's not. I'm more then ready to tell you that I base my idea of religion solely on faith, thus I have no need to provide evidence as I don't consider it a part of my religious decision-making

Atheists argue religion based on facts. If they want to talk facts, then I want their proof that God doesn't exist


By the way, I'm not saying you're arrogant, just confident ;)

SATCHMO 04-04-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz (Post 630312)
you have proof that God doesn't exist?

perhaps you should define what you mean by the term "God" before asking others to prove god doesn't exist.

sleepy jack 04-04-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by zzz (Post 630316)
No, it's not. I'm more then ready to tell you that I base my idea of religion solely on faith, thus I have no need to provide evidence as I don't consider it a part of my religious decision-making

Atheists argue religion based on facts. If they want to talk facts, then I want their proof that God doesn't exist

I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic. You could use both terms interchangeably to describe me I suppose but my stance is essentially one of non-belief. There isn't any actual burden of proof on me to justify my stance no matter how much you claim there is. However if you base your religious beliefs entirely on faith (which isn't evidence at all...a comment I noticed you avoided) then it's a cop out and an arrogant one at that since you seem to think it entitles you to a sense of smug superiority.

midnight rain 04-04-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 630319)
I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic. You could use both terms interchangeably to describe me I suppose but my stance is essentially one of non-belief. There isn't any actual burden of proof on me to justify my stance no matter how much you claim there is. However if you base your religious beliefs entirely on faith (which isn't evidence at all...a comment I noticed you avoided) then it's a cop out and an arrogant one at that.

It's not evidence, it's justification for my beliefs

You're right, there's no burden, it is a voluntary discussion. But it is a sincere question that begs an answer from all atheists

Though since you're agnostic, I suppose that changes my stance a bit

SATCHMO 04-04-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 630317)
perhaps you should define what you mean by the term "God" before asking others to prove god doesn't exist.

You're ignoring a relevant question^^^^^

midnight rain 04-04-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 630327)
You're ignoring a relevant question^^^^^

The general sense of God. I mean THE God, not A God. As in, the Bible's sense of God


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