Isbjørn

Sorry bruh, the test says I'm a commie.

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John Wilkes Booth

i'm having a hard time understanding the dilemma here

you say that a process of trial and error which is based on probability/non-random selection + random genetic mutation can create a tool for intelligence

but an intelligent agent using the process of trial and error in a similar though much more rapid and guided way is impossible?

it's like you're saying that intelligence is magic or something

it's not. it's just engineering. as for a 'real world example', do you mean an example of a less intelligent agent designing more intelligent agent, or do you specifically mean humans creating something smarter than humans which obviously hasn't happened yet. that's what i'm saying is going to happen.

if you care enough, check out this lecture. this is where i get these ideas from.

John Wilkes Booth

ftfy

i would say they've achieved their goal with resounding success tbh

Frownland

I'm going to sic my government on you.

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The Batlord

Except when their apparent lack of understanding of how the economy functions in the long term caused them to go bankrupt.

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John Wilkes Booth

is it lack of understanding or is it the fact that everyone is self interested and not as concerned with the overall well being of the economy so long as they turn out alright

i mean who really took the hit when the economy crashed?

DwnWthVwls

No, I just don't understand how an intelligent machine can be designed in such a way that it surpasses our own knowledge. I agree it may be more efficient, I even said that about the calculator. Maybe the video will help clear things up, I watched the first 15 minutes of the video don't have time to watch it all now.

I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt. I hope the economic masterminds of the world truly understand the system they are dealing with but decided to be selfish assholes.

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Chula Vista

On a side note, this is a great movie to see how some of this goes down behind the scenes.



This scene was chilling. The dude just ruined millions of people's lives and he casually enjoys his meal.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

The Batlord

So, they knew that the entire system they had exploited to make them ****loads of money would come crashing down, leaving them at the mercy of the government to bailout? Which they only did once Lehman Brothers went belly up. That's not selfish and short sighted, that's just not having any idea how to interpret the long term actions of such an infinitely complex system.

Key words, "like" and "hope". Two words not based in logic. Face it. The people who run this world are holding on by their fingertips the same as everyone else.

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John Wilkes Booth

yea, give the video a good try. it starts off slow.



i mean i'm not saying they intentionally crashed the economy

i just think they were more focused on making money for themselves than for insuring long term economic stability.