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Old 04-20-2009, 06:43 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't like it when people talk about 'when life begins', when quite clearly an embryo or foetus is alive in the scientific term. But life isn't sacred in a blanket sense, it's more important to look at the quality of the life.

So for me, killing a bundle of cells that can't think or feel at even a basic level doesn't offend and I'm fine with abortion early in the pregnancy.
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:10 AM   #42 (permalink)
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If I were your mother, I'd have aborted you at age 3


How exactly would that abortion work? Push him down the stairs?
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:39 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:28 PM   #44 (permalink)
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that has got to be the most retarded logic I've heard for a long time. I don't remember being born, nor do I remember going from the hospital to my home, or just about anything up til I was 4 so by that logic I wasn't alive until I was 4 years old.
there is a difference between being aware [ or conscious] and remembering
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:31 PM   #45 (permalink)
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There's a difference between brain functionality and humanity, as seen in animals.
i assume youre not a vegetarian? are we arguing about if you should kill animals now too? lets not. if theres a thread about that in here id like to find it. . .
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:50 AM   #46 (permalink)
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i assume youre not a vegetarian? are we arguing about if you should kill animals now too? lets not. if theres a thread about that in here id like to find it. . .
Me and ethan already had a long debate about THAT topic. I was saying that by Unfan's definition of life, human fetuses' lives are as valuable as animals', which I, along with most of the Republicans against abortion, think are essentially worthless.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:52 PM   #47 (permalink)
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are we arguing about if you should kill animals now too? lets not.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:30 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Because I don't think animals can love anything. Apparently anyone who has ever owned a pet ever disagrees with that, which is weird cause I've had many pets... I don't think any of them were about to leap in front of a bullet to save my life or anything. That's the end of me talking about that.

My point of course being that TheUnfan can't use his definition as a defense for pro-lifers when pro-lifers are usually the people that devalue animal life.
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:22 PM   #49 (permalink)
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How exactly would that abortion work? Push him down the stairs?
The good ole coat hanger trick, might take a little while, but it will work!

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Because I don't think animals can love anything. Apparently anyone who has ever owned a pet ever disagrees with that, which is weird cause I've had many pets... I don't think any of them were about to leap in front of a bullet to save my life or anything. That's the end of me talking about that.

My point of course being that TheUnfan can't use his definition as a defense for pro-lifers when pro-lifers are usually the people that devalue animal life.
Ha ha, I think youre getting rover confused with underdog. Im a 'pro-lifer' and I value animal life.
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I'm confused. I'd never use my argument to back up a pro-life stance. I'm pro-choice, so it would be counterproductive.

Also, I'm 100% fine with animals dying for consumption.
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