The Unfan

What defines a human?

The Unfan

Why shouldn't we have sex for selfish reasons? Getting off is just as good as any reason to do anything that I can think of. Wanting to have fun and not have a child seems totally acceptable to me. You wouldn't tell someone "tough luck" if they blew their fingers off with a firecracker, you'd get an ambulence.

mr dave

i never said people shouldn't have sex. no one did. what i said was people shouldn't have unprotected intercourse unless they feel comfortable with the possibility of creating new life with the person they are doing it with. the concept is simpler to grasp than that sentence was to type.

condoms aren't hard to find, birth control pills aren't hard to find either. there's virtually no reason for accidental pregnancies aside from simple personal irresponsibility. if you're not willing to face the real consequences of your actions you shouldn't be acting.

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Scarlett O'Hara

There are exceptions though, even when using condoms and birth control pills women can still get pregnant. But that is what the morning after pill is for. There is such a thing as girls being allergic to condoms, and they can break. You might have a condom break in a place where you can't get to a chemist easily, so there is always ways to slip through.

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mr dave

yes, but those odds are ridiculously small. plus there's the whole 2nd part to my statement, that, while you don't need to believe or follow when you're just doing it for kicks, is still something that should be recognized.

i guess i just see myself as more than our highest basic instinct.

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Thrice

im with you bro, excuses are pretty lame when it comes to having children.

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boo boo

No, I said being pro life DOESN'T make you sexist.

I only said that a good majority of pro-lifers are hardcore Christians who just happen to be very sexist. That dosen't apply to everyone that's against abortion.

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muzikobsessed09

Basically all I've gotten out of this thread is each side stating their personal opinions and the other side taking that and either twisting the words or saying that the argument is moot for whatever reason so that the point cannot be used against them. I realize this is a form of argument but it doesn't get a whole lot accomplished. A better argument would be to take all your opposition's points, refute them, then continue with your own points (non-opinion) and support them with facts or research.

Sorry, I'm kind of an English nerd but that's why these kind of threads really never get anything accomplished other than endless repetition and, usually, swearing.

Also, if you try to tell me this is not an "argument", it is a "discussion", please check out Everything's An Argument. (I don't know if there is an online version...)

I'll just step down now...

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Double X

If abortions are banned people will just hop the border to Canada...if they want one they will have it.

crash_override

Pro-Choice vs. Pro-No Choice

Which sounds more constitutional?

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