Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice
 

So what's your stance?

Personally, I'm pro-choice. Because for one, I believe that that embryo itself, really has no rights as is only a potential and not an actual being. Therefore it should not have rights that take precedence over those of its mother until it is physically born. The mother should be have the inherent rights to make the decision to choose to do whatever she wishes to do with her body. I mean, if we take away the woman’s right to choose, will we begin limiting her other rights also?

Plus, it is my opinion that the unborn is an embryo or a fetus-just a mass of tissue, a product of conception- not an actual human being yet. Abortion is terminating a pregnancy, not killing a child. Since, it has not experienced anything yet, by terminating its development nothing much has been done actually harm it. Right now, it has no mind of its own, besides a brain which is just starting to develop, but since it has not been exposed to anything besides its mothers body,it could not possibly have any thoughts yet, since all thoughts originate from experiences one has had.

Pro-choice, absolutely. And just for the record, I absolutely can not stand when pro-life activists pull the "you're committing a murder" bullshit on me. A human being is an individual who is capable of living on it's own. A fetus is unable to function properly without it's mother's organs until child birth. Therefore I'm not killing anyone (so suck it).

I just fucking hate babies. I have thoughts about going to the Labor & Delivery floor in hospitals, and switching all of the babies’ name tags and charts around. And I really don’t see this as an issue. Stop littering the world with your progeny, especially if you know you should not/can not raise a child.

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I thought we had a thread about this, but aside from rape and such like events, Im very pro-life. This is a fairly useless and overplayed debate and IMO it all just comes down to responsibility. As being a 22 year old father I can speak from experience that I could have done things differently and it was suggested to me, but looking back I made a great choice. (Not that it was a decision what so ever) Basically if youre banging, you better be ****ing ready to support a child. This is why we have endless means to not get preg.

On the rape matter, I guess one could abort a child within the first trimester only, and its all very conditional. Not statutory (sp?) rape, but held down and boned kinda style rape.

Stop having sex if you cannot raise a child.

Isn't the outcome of the rape as innocent as the outcome of an unwanted pregnancy?

Consent to sex IS NOT consent to motherhood.

pro-choice, ladies should have the right to not ruin their fuckholes.

Im pretty much done, I dont know why I even post in these threads based on strong opinions and morals. Not a single person in here will ever have there mind changed and I am not mature enough to have a G rated debate on the internet without screaming out "Are you a ****ing idiot?" Aside from that, im also ripped and too lazy to sit here and spend the brain power to debate this for the 10000 time in my life. This topic is out played.

I'm pro-choice, however I don't think it should be used as a form of birth control. I've read some scary statistics about women in Russia having up to 5 abortions before they reach 18. I'm not sure how reliable that information is because as we all know, you can use statistics to prove anything, 95% of people know that.

Bro I love all your posts. Nice humor.

I guess I'm not seeing how that comparison works out, hahahah

ah ha i see it exactly. that was actually an excellent comparison!

Lol, good one. But it is interesting to hear both sides, sure its been done before but I don't really expect to sway any minds here. It's just a discussion. :)

i'm not too keen on choice or life. poor people should stop making bunny rabbits.

I'm pro-sterilization.

pro-choice its your child, do what you want until they're 18, or at least till they're born, dammit

If you don't wanna have kids, there is a solution.
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push her down the stairs?

Pro-Choice, but only in specific situations, lke f the woman is too young to the raise the child and gives it up for stem cell research. If they just wanna trash a human life that's different though.

they don't use fetuses for stem cell research. apart from a good pate, i don't think fetuses serve any functional purpose.

There's some beliefs in Vietnam that if you hang a fetus outside your house, it wards off evil spirits.

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already hammered i see?

bout time.

I'm never going to Vietnam.

Nah I'm taking it easy tonight, I remember reading a graphic novel in which a detective found a man who was killing pregnant women to steal their fetus' and hanging them around his apartment because he didn't want to be afraid anymore. I was kind of intrigued by the concept because I'm kind of ****ed in the head and actually did some research on it. I found an opportunity to put some knowledge into use and that's what I did, and I feel pretty good about it :)

wat.

I don't understand how an individual or government has the right to tell another individual what does or doesn't constitute life (when they don't actually know) and what they can or can't do with their own body.

Having the right to take away rights is, and always will be, the fundamental f*cking reason we will always be slaves.

Pro-choice. It is not the rigt of the doctor to extract information about what other individuals have done to your body of or against your consent. In the case of rape I am morally ok with abortion, however since the doctor doesn't have the right to that information it must always be ok to abort to protect the rights of the aborter.

I'm pro-life, but I think debating it is stupid because everyone will always have their own opinion on when life begins.

well that seems a harsh way to put it. but a agree it is the point and they know that they can do what they want, bitches

life begins when you are conscious of yourself. people dont remember the womb. plus, as you and no one else is gonna actually miss your personalty, and you dont even HAVE one yet, youre not alive till youre born. thats why its a BIRTHday, geniuses. the answer is in the word. oh so i think this debate isnt stupid BTW

Reading comprehension -1

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that has got to be the most retarded logic I've heard for a long time. I don't remember being born, nor do I remember going from the hospital to my home, or just about anything up til I was 4 so by that logic I wasn't alive until I was 4 years old.

Yeah, I was gonna point that out but I'm not sure if babies are really aware of themselves. The earliest I remember is when I was two and a half.

If I were your mother, I'd have aborted you at age 3

For the sake of arguing about what defines life, we know what ends life so I'd assume the opposite of that. We know that when the brain stops activity and functioning that that is death. So the functioning of the brain is perhaps when life starts? If so life begins about 2 months after conception.

I lean a bit more toward pro-choice. I really haven't actually looked into this topic much though. I'm not really concerned about the whole "killing babies" thing. To me, that seems to be something that is up to the individual. If you belieive abortion is wrong, don't get an abortion, and vice versa.

There's a difference between brain functionality and humanity, as seen in animals.