Minutes silences for particular events....

SATCHMO · 06-10-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gareth Brown

Ok i don't know why i'm bothering with this still, BUT. Say i agree with 9/11, i think it was a just cause and i have absolutely no sympathy/respect for those who died. Now, why should i have to....you know what forget it i cba with this nonsense i've put my cards on the table, if you still refuse to read them and ignorantly dub it as selfishness then thats your call.

If I were in Saudi Arabia at an event and someone called for a moment of silence for the members of Al Kaida who valiantly gave their lives on 9/11 I would be silent simply because I would know that despite how I feel about the situation. the people who died on that plane were someone's brother/uncle/father/son and the grief their family were experiencing at that moment of silence was deserving of my respect.

Burning Down · 06-10-2009, 11:22 AM

It's sad to know that it's people like you (Gareth Brown and Wayfarer) who probably wouldn't take a moment of silence on November 11th to reflect on the sacrifices that people (regular people just like you, might I add) made in order to attain the freedom that you are enjoying today (which has also enabled you to say such things).

You don't have to have known the people that this moment of reflection is concerned with, frankly, most people probably don't give two shits if they knew the person or not. It's just out of respect that society ASKS you to take a minute out of your day to be silent. Heck, you can think about whatever you want, no one can read your mind, so if you're thinking "this is so stupid" nobody will even know or care for that matter!

~~The Unfan~~ · 06-10-2009, 01:41 PM

To make a second argument since the first one obviously isn't working for you numbskulls; what if my way of showing respect is to talk about how much I love and respect those dead people? Or even better, how do you know those dead people and those who grieve for them want you to be silent for a small arbitrary amount of time? Maybe they'd rather have us talk about all those great moments those dead people brought.

TheBig3 · 06-10-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

No one's paid attention to me for the last 6 minutes. Wheres my limelight?

You can't talk around that minute? Actions speak louder than words. I'm almost certain you're a "talk over people" kind of guy.

~~The Unfan~~ · 06-10-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

You can't talk around that minute? Actions speak louder than words. I'm almost certain you're a "talk over people" kind of guy.

[Insert deity of choice] forbid I have a valid opinion and wish to share it. These conversation things are terrible eh?

TheBig3 · 06-10-2009, 01:59 PM

I know you want to play in the troll games too, but you didn't answer the question. Is that because your arguement was fluffed up so you could stir the pot?

~~Gareth Brown~~ · 06-10-2009, 04:09 PM

Why do people on here seem to think that disagreeing with someone equates to trolling? Tbh i thought i'd have a lot more people agreeing me than not.

IamAlejo · 06-10-2009, 04:25 PM

They shouldn't have to be enforced. It should be easy to have enough common sense and respect to simply be quiet.

mr dave · 06-10-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gareth Brown

Jesus ****ing christ. I've explained my reasoning and whi i think this is wrong and i've certainly highlighted that it goes beyond me not being able to shut up for a couple of minutes.

right... but i still think you're reasoning is immature to the level of the average burger flipper.

like it or not 'moments of silence' are part of our society. they will happen around major events that shape our society and culture. it's the culture's way of recognizing a sacrifice or tragedy, it's on a higher level than the individual human beings that make up said culture.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-10-2009, 05:32 PM

If I don't think something is worth a minutes silence I just keep my mouth shut out of respect for those that do.

Good manners should not be debatable.

06-10-2009, 01:59 PM	#66 (permalink)
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06-10-2009, 04:25 PM	#68 (permalink)
IamAlejo Muck Fusic Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 1,575	They shouldn't have to be enforced. It should be easy to have enough common sense and respect to simply be quiet. __________________ a man, a plan, a canal, panama

06-10-2009, 05:32 PM	#70 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	If I don't think something is worth a minutes silence I just keep my mouth shut out of respect for those that do. Good manners should not be debatable. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

06-10-2009, 11:22 AM	#62 (permalink)
Burning Down The Music Guru. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Beyond the Wall Posts: 4,858	It's sad to know that it's people like you (Gareth Brown and Wayfarer) who probably wouldn't take a moment of silence on November 11th to reflect on the sacrifices that people (regular people just like you, might I add) made in order to attain the freedom that you are enjoying today (which has also enabled you to say such things). You don't have to have known the people that this moment of reflection is concerned with, frankly, most people probably don't give two shits if they knew the person or not. It's just out of respect that society ASKS you to take a minute out of your day to be silent. Heck, you can think about whatever you want, no one can read your mind, so if you're thinking "this is so stupid" nobody will even know or care for that matter!

06-10-2009, 01:41 PM	#63 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	To make a second argument since the first one obviously isn't working for you numbskulls; what if my way of showing respect is to talk about how much I love and respect those dead people? Or even better, how do you know those dead people and those who grieve for them want you to be silent for a small arbitrary amount of time? Maybe they'd rather have us talk about all those great moments those dead people brought.

06-10-2009, 04:09 PM	#67 (permalink)
~~Gareth Brown~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 295	Why do people on here seem to think that disagreeing with someone equates to trolling? Tbh i thought i'd have a lot more people agreeing me than not.