WolfAtTheDoor

Obviously this thread is mainly for MB's British users, or anyone else in the world who has caught on to this rising right-wing political party.

Nick Griffin, the head of the BNP, opposes the extreme immigration happening in England and the fact that during times of recession, jobs are not going to English people. He appeared on Question Time this week, and the BBC is being criticised by many as setting him up by being particularly hostile with him and not letting him air his views in a civil way. The panel were particularly aggressive, and his answers to questions were often dismissed.

Seeing as it is the burning topic, and an issue I am quite conflicted over, what are all your thoughts?

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Urban Hat€monger ?

I was extremely disappointed in it.

He really could have been exposed as a phoney with no workable policies.

But no, we get a panel with a token Muslim, a token black woman, an audience full of annoying whooping & hollering leftie students and one of the most unpopular Labour politicians ever all going for cheap point scoring by mentioning the World War 2 & immigration every few seconds, It was embarrassing. We already know he's a racist for fuck sake, that's why he's the leader of the fucking BNP.

In fact I would say Griffin got the best line of the night when he asked Straw what his grandfather did during the war.

Other than that Griffin was useless but he could have been so exposed much better than he was.

A wasted opportunity.

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Nick "Adolf Brent" Griffin was set up before he even had the chance to open his mouth.
The pre-prepared rhetoric the panel blasted him with from the outset, meant Griffin was never going to be able to dig his own grave. Which in my opinion was essential.
All they had to do was sit back and allow this idiot to spout his doctrine first and then dismantle his policies and ideologies.
What we got instead was an all out attack on the BNP, when what we should have got was the total destruction of Griffin and his thinly disguised please the public policies and exposed him, to those who are unsure, for the racist bigot he really is...once and for all.

No surprise then that the latest polls show he was thought to have been treated unfairly and that one in five Britons would now consider voting BNP.

Like Urban said. "A wasted opportunity".
And one that has probably done more harm than good.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Everytime Griffin opened his mouth he said something totally idiotic.

They should have just had a normal show, let him speak freely & hang himself.

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What you have to realise is that the rise of the BNP is on the back of the current Labour governments seemingly reluctant stance on stemming the now ridiculous tide of immigration into this country.

Ordinary, non racist citizens are now considering voting BNP because this issue is of national and economic importance.

Stemming the tide of immigration is one thing, but a Britain run by the BNP would soon turn into a pre war nazi Germany.

My opinion is this... that the first mainstream political party to make a sensible stance on the issue of immigration and make it a primary part of their manifesto for the next election, will win by a landslide.

No need for the BNP.

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Exactly. It makes me wonder how much of it was down to shifting the spotlight away from their own inadequate political cock ups.

Molecules

Nobody that isn't harbouring some deep prejudices would vote BNP in their right mind, no matter how lax the major parties are. This was a huge mistake. Xenophobia is a proud British trait, you encounter it everywhere, and in times of perceived desperation such as these (thanks, media) the politically ignorant probably are looking at the BNP as an option, that's how fucking blind people can be.
I totally agree, Straw's inability to appease on immigration probably handed them thousands of votes, it's in the incompetent hands of Brown and Cameron to stem the unstoppable tide of brown people now...
Worst that will happen is the BNP gaining a seat or two, thank christ we don't have proportional representation

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I never cease to be amazed at the amount of truly stupid people that there are out there.
Remember...we live in a world where Bananarama got to number 1 in the charts and George Bush was the president of the United States!

Griffin's BNP are setting out their stall to show an acceptable face to the general public.
The BNP has a certain amount of political credibility now too. At the very least it has the potential to make changes and ones that the voter will be guaranteed to be carried out to the letter should they get in.
Add the Brits xenophobia to our distrust and loathing of change that we're also famous for (ie; more bloody foreigners) and it would be wise not to underestimate the general public on the issue of immigration in the current climate, or their wisdom on who they may vote for.

Molecules

i never thought we'd end up seriously discussing the potential of the BNP, it's madness, but you've also got the ever-widening gulf between rich and poor in this country, as has been shown the recession has done little to change this and yeah... i keep my ear to the ground and still feel more disconnected from mainstream politics than ever and fully intend to throw my vote away on the Greens, Urban would be keen to write me off as a student leftie no doubt; but it's that poverty gap that this wolf in sheep's clothing is pretending he's going to bridge, at a time when anybody living in poverty feels like they're being ignored... you're spot on, it would be National Socialism all over again. Same old bullshit

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Barnard17

The BBC should never have had him on the show. It should absolutely refuse to give a voice to racist thugs.

He also opposes blacks, asians, muslims, ***s, Jews (when he thinks he can get away with it) and proposes riots, beatings and general violent forms of civil disobedience as viable things for the party to be spending it's time doing. Lets not forget that anything Griffin says that sounds reasonable is a façade to win support of the moderate undecided and what he says when he doesn't realise there's a camera on him proves time and time again to be a completely different story.

Yes, because he was spouting shit. Anything that came out of his mouth was either a total lie in an attempt to contradict something he'd previously said that would damage his reputation, or a completely stupid statement, e.g. his claim of the British people and their apparent Caucasian genotype, while sat next to a woman from the British Museum who had the fun of explaining where we genetically all come from (that is to say, Africa).

I also adore that he keeps on yammering on that his father was in the RAF in the second world war, ergo he is not a Nazi. Ignoring the fact that he is not his father, and that plainly nobody is suggesting that he wants to start the Third Reich when they call him a Nazi ...

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