It's been close to a year... Thoughts on Obama

duga · 04-02-2010, 01:04 PM

Yeah, I love how everyone has demonized the word socialism. Just like they did with communism. Guess what, those are simply forms of government...not evil regimes bent on enslaving everyone. Communism didn't work, but it tried. You know what other form of government doesn't work? Capitalism. Just take a look at how many times our economy has collapsed in the past century. Something tells me we could do with some improvement.

It's socialism. Get over it.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-03-2010, 08:29 AM

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Yeah, I love how everyone has demonized the word socialism. Just like they did with communism. Guess what, those are simply forms of government...not evil regimes bent on enslaving everyone. Communism didn't work, but it tried. You know what other form of government doesn't work? Capitalism. Just take a look at how many times our economy has collapsed in the past century. Something tells me we could do with some improvement.

I would just like to point out that saying capitalism doesn't work because of what has happened here in America is just as foolish as saying Russia's collapse proves that socialism doesn't work.

duga · 04-03-2010, 01:08 PM

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I would just like to point out that saying capitalism doesn't work because of what has happened here in America is just as foolish as saying Russia's collapse proves that socialism doesn't work.

I could go into more detail if you would like me to, but I'd say a system where economic collapse is inherent is pretty flawed.

And I didn't say socialism doesn't work...nor did I mention Russia at all. I mentioned communism as an example as a tried and failed form of government...but it seems to work for China pretty well albeit in a highly modified way. I think the same could go for capitalism.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-03-2010, 03:40 PM

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I could go into more detail if you would like me to, but I'd say a system where economic collapse is inherent is pretty flawed.

And I didn't say socialism doesn't work...nor did I mention Russia at all. I mentioned communism as an example as a tried and failed form of government...but it seems to work for China pretty well albeit in a highly modified way. I think the same could go for capitalism.

I was using the comment about socialism/communism to show that the comment about capitalism that you made is flawed.

You have to look at why capitalism/communism is failing/succeeding in the country of X. You can't just say "Well, communism worked here, so it is a good economic system." When you do that, you are basing your argument more off of correlation, which is weak.

Also, how is economic collapse inherent in capitalism. Please don't use correlative arguments either because in the world of formal logic they don't really mean anything.

ProggyMan · 04-03-2010, 11:30 PM

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The point of my posts is to show that the way capitalism is run right now is not working. Adding a bit of socialism is what we need. Look up the fractional reserve system and you can see in plain writing how economic collapse is inherent. Not only is it apparent in writing, but we have seen it happen time and again, almost exactly when today's statisticians and economic supervisors predict it will happen.

And in no way was I correlating anything you mentioned. Read my posts again.

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I could go into more detail if you would like me to, but I'd say a system where economic collapse is inherent is pretty flawed.

And I didn't say socialism doesn't work...nor did I mention Russia at all. I mentioned communism as an example as a tried and failed form of government...but it seems to work for China pretty well albeit in a highly modified way. I think the same could go for capitalism.

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I would just like to point out that saying capitalism doesn't work because of what has happened here in America is just as foolish as saying Russia's collapse proves that socialism doesn't work.

Read the posts very, very carefully. He was just pointing out that saying because capitalism fails in America does not mean it is inherently flawed.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 04-19-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

Yeah, I love how everyone has demonized the word socialism. Just like they did with communism. Guess what, those are simply forms of government...not evil regimes bent on enslaving everyone. Communism didn't work, but it tried. You know what other form of government doesn't work? Capitalism. Just take a look at how many times our economy has collapsed in the past century. Something tells me we could do with some improvement.

It's socialism. Get over it.

Calling somebody a Socialist is like calling somebody a Loyalist to the British Crown.

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