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Arya Stark 08-17-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 905031)
the problem with homosexuality is that it runs counter to the only real method of survival for the species.

you can paint it up any other way you want but ultimately homosexual relationships are means to an end rather than means to a future (at least from anything besides an emotional perspective).

they can scream all they want about their 'love' and how it's just as 'real' as the love felt in hetero couples but the point continues to be missed. a life long love shouldn't be about satisfying the immediate individuals, it should be about establishing a love that will survive beyond themselves, to combine themselves within another being that will carry and live out their love throughout their own existence. it's physically, biologically, and genetically impossible for homosexuals to do this.

i don't mean this as any form of disrespect to adidass or any other homosexuals here. i've struggled with the idea myself at various times in the past too. once i had made sense of the preceeding paragraph to myself it made it a lot easier to realize that i was alone because i wasn't interested in shallow or promiscuous relationships, not because of gender issues. again, nothing against homosexuals, but in my experience i've also noticed a SIGNIFICANT increase in promiscuity and basic indecency and intimate disrespect within the g4y community. a lot around here (especially young ones) seem to take the idea that since they can't make babies as a green card for slutting out hardcore.

So you're saying people who are infertile are a problem, right?
Sperm banks?
Adoption?
Maybe all of the *******s who get pregnant and put their kids up for adoption should pay a little more attention.
If I marry a girl, I will most definitely pay attention to the fact that there are kids out there who are up for adoption for any reason, and that will be the same if I marry a man or anyone else.
And the straight parents in China who put their baby girls up for adoption because they can't carry the family name- that's a problem that you can see too, I hope.
It's not the only method.
And I know plenty of gay men who would give their sperm up so that women can have kids.

On top of the fact that you said that in your experience, gay people tend to be more promiscuous.
I completely disagree with that. It seems a little prejudiced to me.
There are so many possibilities, what you just said was extremely narrow-minded and offensive, regardless of the fact that you thought you were gay once or twice upon a time.

Stone Birds 08-18-2010 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 905031)
the problem with homosexuality is that it runs counter to the only real method of survival for the species.

you can paint it up any other way you want but ultimately homosexual relationships are means to an end rather than means to a future (at least from anything besides an emotional perspective).

they can scream all they want about their 'love' and how it's just as 'real' as the love felt in hetero couples but the point continues to be missed. a life long love shouldn't be about satisfying the immediate individuals, it should be about establishing a love that will survive beyond themselves, to combine themselves within another being that will carry and live out their love throughout their own existence. it's physically, biologically, and genetically impossible for homosexuals to do this.

i don't mean this as any form of disrespect to adidass or any other homosexuals here. i've struggled with the idea myself at various times in the past too. once i had made sense of the preceeding paragraph to myself it made it a lot easier to realize that i was alone because i wasn't interested in shallow or promiscuous relationships, not because of gender issues. again, nothing against homosexuals, but in my experience i've also noticed a SIGNIFICANT increase in promiscuity and basic indecency and intimate disrespect within the g4y community. a lot around here (especially young ones) seem to take the idea that since they can't make babies as a green card for slutting out hardcore.

so... you think "gayness" is some disease that's taking over the world?
because the fact of the matter is there will always be gay and straight people in the world, most likely more straight than gay.
hey maybe we do need more gay people, one world issue is over-population.

and even if by some odd chance the one day everyone's gay (which is nearly impossible) women can still become pregnant without having sex.

NumberNineDream 08-18-2010 11:05 AM

However, the question remains: Gaydar, fact or fiction?

Stone Birds 08-18-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 919914)
However, the question remains: Gaydar, fact or fiction?

hey #9 you don't need to apply the color thing anymore the word "gay" is unblocked now

Arya Stark 08-18-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 919907)
so... you think "gayness" is some disease that's taking over the world?
because the fact of the matter is there will always be gay and straight people in the world, most likely more straight than gay.
hey maybe we do need more gay people, one world issue is over-population.

and even if by some odd chance the one day everyone's gay (which is nearly impossible) women can still become pregnant without having sex.

He never said it was a disease taking over the world.

You just took it to a level it never needed to be at.

Guybrush 08-18-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 919914)
However, the question remains: Gaydar, fact or fiction?

Saw someone studying this on the telly some months ago and the researcher interviewed said that there was definetly a gaydar. People were generally good at figuring out sexual orientation.

Arya Stark 08-18-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 919929)
Saw someone studying this on the telly some months ago and the researcher interviewed said that there was definetly a gaydar. People were generally good at figuring out sexual orientation.

I don't think it had to be considered gaydar, though.
Maybe some people are just better at defining and understanding body language or launguage use.

Guybrush 08-18-2010 11:44 AM

Well, if you put 1000 people through a study where they watch videos of people and where they are supposed to figure out who's gay or not and the success rate is on average something like 80~90% (just making up numbers here), then doesn't that indicate that most people may have some kind of "gaydar"?

Of course - how it works, where the clues come from, whether it's body language or the way people talk or look .. figuring that out would just explain how the gaydar works, not that it doesn't exist. ;)

Stone Birds 08-18-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 919918)
He never said it was a disease taking over the world.

You just took it to a level it never needed to be at.

what i was saying, in a metaphor, was that basically what he was saying would only make sense if it was like that

Arya Stark 08-18-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 919936)
Well, if you put 1000 people through a study where they watch videos of people and where they are supposed to figure out who's gay or not and the success rate is on average something like 80~90% (just making up numbers here), then doesn't that indicate that most people may have some kind of "gaydar"?

Of course - how it works, where the clues come from, whether it's body language or the way people talk or look .. figuring that out would just explain how the gaydar works, not that it doesn't exist. ;)

Hehe, I understand.
I guess I've always took gaydar to be some uncanny "ability" that people claimed to have, rather than something with a scientific definition.


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