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RVCA 11-11-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toao (Post 955361)
someone did something to them they enjoyed, and as a result, became gay

:confused:

Freebase Dali 11-11-2010 06:08 PM

Wow people, I realize some of us may be a little young for it, but it's a joke. Toao was telling a joke. First time I heard that joke was from my dad, who's in his 60's. Maybe the humor of it is lost on our generation, but it's kind of hard not to see the mechanism of the joke.

someonecompletelyrandom 11-11-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 955415)
Wow people, I realize some of us may be a little young for it, but it's a joke. Toao was telling a joke. First time I heard that joke was from my dad, who's in his 60's. Maybe the humor of it is lost on our generation, but it's kind of hard not to see the mechanism of the joke.

Right, I got it. I was just pointing out that puns aren't.... punny. :usehead:

Freebase Dali 11-11-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 955417)
Right, I got it. I was just pointing out that puns aren't.... punny.

I wasn't referring to you. Your response was the smartest one of the bunch.

RVCA 11-11-2010 06:37 PM

I get that he was making a joke, but I can't tell if he seriously believes "about 20%" of people choose to be gay.

Toao 11-11-2010 07:14 PM

Guess what I meant by "random percentage."

And spare me the "dad comment. I still have all my hair, & some of my teeth.

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You are so not very educated in this, because you live in Cali you are an expert? Hell no.
I was in an industry where I would have to deal with people, in their homes. Around 1,000 a year.
We of course went after money, and a lot of times, they have it. Especially in some of the areas like Laguna Beach, Belmont shore, and of course, scattered everywhere. Older people generally do too, but they complain more. Through owning a business, I made a lot of friends, and some of them gay. I know them, I know their culture. Enough to stick up for them. Besides, my wife was a lesbian when I met her.

So really Vanilla, I would say I'm a little ejamacated on the subject ma'am. There is only one way I can think of to be more educated, and I'm not quite THAT tolerant.

Some of the things people say, like about parenting, is wrong. A great example is "How often do you think about what kind of sex are your parent having?"
I don't know about anyone else, but I tried my hardest not to.

While I have nothing against them, and will stick up for them, I do have to admit I'm against gay marriage. Just for the reason it's not discriminatory.
I'm not gay, and I can't marry a guy either.

Ca is different than the rest of the US. We were an independent republic, just like Texas. Only in ours, everyone was always pretty much equal, even Indians, Blacks, and of course, homosexuals.

There are still of course, idiots

Assault victim: Attackers thought I was gay | case, party, cory - News - The Orange County Register

It's better to just let people live their own lives.

ThePhanastasio 11-11-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toao (Post 955461)
While I have nothing against them, and will stick up for them, I do have to admit I'm against gay marriage. Just for the reason it's not discriminatory.
I'm not gay, and I can't marry a guy either.

The difference being your particular preference, actually. That's where the discrimination comes into play.

I do happen to be gay, and if I choose to spend the rest of my life with somebody, I don't see why it can't be legally recognized as even a sufficient Civil Partnership in many of the states.

Just try to see it as any other group, not just homosexuals. For example, what if the marriages of African Americans weren't recognized? Would you say, "I'm not black, but I can't marry a black person either"? Would that be the end of it?

And really, if you're all for letting people live their lives, you know, the "live and let live" stuff, then why would it hurt you if gay people were allowed to get married? It doesn't mean that you are required to be gay married, and it wouldn't hurt you in the slightest if gay people were getting married.

Anyone who argues that it should remain something which isn't allowed on the basis of religion can be shot down because religion cannot feasibly play a real part in legislative rulings. We don't live in a religious monarchy.

Those arguing that it's something which shouldn't be allowed because it doesn't really embody the true marriage in that the partners can't reproduce should, in theory, likewise be opposed to infertile couples being wed.

It's complete crap to me that people claim to be gay-friendly and such, but use tired excuses which aren't even applicable to the gay community to perpetuate the negativity by just...sitting around and watching.

TheBig3 11-11-2010 09:43 PM

this threads lost me completely.

Toao 11-11-2010 09:55 PM

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I do happen to be gay, and if I choose to spend the rest of my life with somebody, I don't see why it can't be legally recognized as even a sufficient Civil Partnership in many of the states.
That's the thing, you can. And I'm sure you probably realize, they've already had the legal partnership for years. You have all the same rights, the only difference is that you can't undo an adoption.

But the biggest problem is that marriage is a church thing, and then it starts to involve people that are absolutely positive they know god's personal opinion, and everyone else's is wrong.

If they ever do legalize it, I'm going to be one of the people that try to have two wives. Meaning two female wives of course. If a man can marry a man, why can't a man marry two women?

Janszoon 11-11-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 955441)
I get that he was making a joke, but I can't tell if he seriously believes "about 20%" of people choose to be gay.

If you're asking this, then you don't get the joke.


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