The problems with homosexuality

SIRIUSB · 09-22-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

It's not a "phenomenon". Children have gender roles inflicted on them, otherwise they just explore what looks fun. It's what children do until someone tells them it's wrong. And just because you played with dolls when you were a child (if you're a man), doesn't mean you're going to be gay, at all. I was very tomboyish when I was young, yet I'm a heterosexual, so where are you getting this bull**** from? Either way, gender doesn't have much to do with sexual orientation at all.

The word phenomenon is defined as any observable occurrence.
I'm sure I included:

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Nevertheless, not all gay/bisexual men exhibit especially feminine characteristics, and not all feminine men identify as gay/bisexual.

I'm getting my bull**** from academic psychological resources, where are you getting your bull**** from?

Guybrush · 09-22-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

It's not a "phenomenon". Children have gender roles inflicted on them, otherwise they just explore what looks fun. It's what children do until someone tells them it's wrong. And just because you played with dolls when you were a child (if you're a man), doesn't mean you're going to be gay, at all. I was very tomboyish when I was young, yet I'm a heterosexual, so where are you getting this bull**** from? Either way, gender doesn't have much to do with sexual orientation at all.

Actually, studies show that girls and boys do exhibit different behaviours even right after birth, so gender typical behaviours are not just a cultural phenomenon. I saw an informative program about it on the telly last year

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I could add that as a biologist, it makes perfect sense. Biology gives rise to behaviour. Boys and girls have different biology and so on so it makes sense they have different behaviour.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 09-22-2011, 03:18 PM

But he's talking about playing with dolls or cross-dressing, tore. I would think that's certainly more of a cultural thing that counts it as "girly".

SIRIUSB · 09-22-2011, 03:28 PM

I suppose I'd have to look into more about how "expected gender-related sociological or psychological patterns, and/or identify with the opposite gender" equates with cultural diversity.

Guybrush · 09-22-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

But he's talking about playing with dolls or cross-dressing, tore. I would think that's certainly more of a cultural thing that counts it as "girly".

Such studies have shown that boys and girls prefer different kinds of toys from a very early age. I did a quick search on scholar and here's the abstract of one such study :

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Evidence indicating that sex-linked toy preferences exist in two nonhuman primate species support the hypothesis that developmental sex differences such as those observed in children’s object preferences are shaped in part by inborn factors. If so, then preferences for sex-linked toys may emerge in children before any self-awareness of gender identity and gender–congruent behavior. In order to test this hypothesis, interest in a doll and a toy truck was measured in 30 infants ranging in age from 3 to 8 months using eye-tracking technology that provides precise indicators of visual attention. Consistent with primary hypothesis, sex differences in visual interest in sex-linked toys were found, such that girls showed a visual preference (d > 1.0) for the doll over the toy truck and boys compared to girls showed a greater number of visual fixations on the truck (d = .78). Our findings suggest that the conceptual categories of “masculine” and “feminine” toys are preceded by sex differences in the preferences for perceptual features associated with such objects. The existence of these innate preferences for object features coupled with well-documented social influences may explain why toy preferences are one of the earliest known manifestations of sex-linked social behavior.

source >> SpringerLink - Archives of Sexual Behavior, Volume 38, Number 3

There are more studies like this too.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 09-22-2011, 03:32 PM

Hmm, but what about GI Joes eh

FRED HALE SR. · 09-22-2011, 03:40 PM

My only problem with the homosexual community is I always feel under-dressed around them. They typically are fashionable and well manicured. Also Richard Simmons. Nobody should be rocking Dolphin shorts its a travesty.

SIRIUSB · 09-22-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

Hmm, but what about GI Joes eh

They are labeled 'Action Figures' not dolls . . . but you might be on to something, LOL!

djchameleon · 09-22-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

My only problem with the homosexual community is I always feel under-dressed around them. They typically are fashionable and well manicured. Also Richard Simmons. Nobody should be rocking Dolphin shorts its a travesty.

You obviously haven't met enough of them. I had a friend that couldn't dress to save his life and he was gay. I swear it looked like his closet raped him every morning when he left his house. I had to teach him how to dress.

TheBig3 · 09-22-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

It was at Siriusb. What do you mean about "social collateral"? What exactly makes what I said look bad?

If someone likes being tied up. Its a fetish. They enjoy it and see it as a boon.

They are likely going to take offense if you liken it to pedophilia. No certitudes, just politics. Take it from a guy who works CS, people go bat**** over the most ridiculous stuff.

09-22-2011, 03:18 PM	#853 (permalink)
~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	But he's talking about playing with dolls or cross-dressing, tore. I would think that's certainly more of a cultural thing that counts it as "girly".

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SIRIUSB Luciferian Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 278	I suppose I'd have to look into more about how "expected gender-related sociological or psychological patterns, and/or identify with the opposite gender" equates with cultural diversity.

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~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	Hmm, but what about GI Joes eh

09-22-2011, 03:40 PM	#857 (permalink)
FRED HALE SR. Neo-Maxi-Zoom-Dweebie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: So-Cal Posts: 3,752	My only problem with the homosexual community is I always feel under-dressed around them. They typically are fashionable and well manicured. Also Richard Simmons. Nobody should be rocking Dolphin shorts its a travesty.