The problems with homosexuality

hip hop bunny hop · 12-23-2011, 11:48 AM

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This thread is great. I love it when people feel the need to get on their soapbox and rant about how other people live their lives. Well you can get down from your soapbox and shove it up your ass because I'm going to continue to have healthy relationships with men and women. If you don't like that, sorry. No-one cares.

This would be much more convincing if you hadn't previously said:

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Originally Posted by Above

Religious people feel persecuted? Oh that's just precious.

I'm transgendered, and in several states I can get fired for being so, and I wouldn't be able to do a damn thing about it. I live in UK, but it doesn't make much difference. It's very difficult for me to hold customer service jobs because of this. Of course they'd never actually say it's because of me being transgendered. They disguise it with other bullshit reasons.

So they can blow it out their ass.

Salami · 12-23-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

This would be much more convincing if you hadn't previously said:

I don't see what problem complaining about the treatment transgendered people have and being unable to find a job has to supporting homosexual rights?

I think both points are reasonable.

Above · 12-23-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Stupid stuff

Uh, I think my point still stands.

I think the fact that you're a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, bigot invalidates everything you say.

hip hop bunny hop · 12-23-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Above

Uh, I think my point still stands.

I think the fact that you're a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, bigot invalidates everything you say.

In reply to the italicized; the discrepancy I was alluding to was wherein you (1) called for people to mind their own business ("I love it when people feel the need to get on their soapbox and rant about how other people live their lives."), but previously seemingly (2) called for laws making it illegal to act upon ones own moral standards ("I'm transgendered, and in several states I can get fired for being so, and I wouldn't be able to do a damn thing about it. ").

It seemed as though you were juxtaposing a Libertarian position, which I labeled (1), against a statist position (2).

Understand?

In regards to the underlined, that's an ad hominem attack.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-23-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

In reply to the italicized; the discrepancy I was alluding to was wherein you (1) called for people to mind their own business ("I love it when people feel the need to get on their soapbox and rant about how other people live their lives."), but previously seemingly (2) called for laws making it illegal to act upon ones own moral standards ("I'm transgendered, and in several states I can get fired for being so, and I wouldn't be able to do a damn thing about it. ").

It seemed as though you were juxtaposing a Libertarian position, which I labeled (1), against a statist position (2).

Understand?

In regards to the underlined, that's an ad hominem attack.

Amen, brother.

Christ, Why can't we just put em' on trains, and make em' disappear like in the good ol' days.

Salami · 12-24-2011, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

It seemed as though you were juxtaposing a Libertarian position, which I labeled (1), against a statist position (2)

I really don't think so. She never said anything about laws, all she said was that the way she is treated for being transgendered is unfair and she is prevented from getting a job for no other reason than her life choice.

Expressing disagreement with the way employers treat her is perfectly compatible with asking people not to interfere or condemn something which does not affect them in any way. Is your life going to be made worse by the fact that she is transgendered?

Furthermore, I don't see what is wrong with complaining about the unfair treatment she gets. If someone is being refused a job in the private sector, there may be some defense as it is the business owner who decides who he wants to employ. But in the public sector, there is no excuse. If the government discriminates against the people then it cannot properly represent the people. And this is a perfectly reasonable complaint in my opinion.

~~Rubato~~ · 12-24-2011, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

In reply to the italicized; the discrepancy I was alluding to was wherein you (1) called for people to mind their own business ("I love it when people feel the need to get on their soapbox and rant about how other people live their lives."), but previously seemingly (2) called for laws making it illegal to act upon ones own moral standards ("I'm transgendered, and in several states I can get fired for being so, and I wouldn't be able to do a damn thing about it. ").

It seemed as though you were juxtaposing a Libertarian position, which I labeled (1), against a statist position (2).

Understand?

In regards to the underlined, that's an ad hominem attack.

I fail to see how it's any business of the employer, they're buying labor not people.