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View Poll Results: Is suicide cowardly?
Yes 39 20.74%
No 79 42.02%
Sometimes, depends on the circumstances (kids etc.) 70 37.23%
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:16 AM   #21 (permalink)
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If you don't want to live, you don't have to imo.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:22 AM   #22 (permalink)
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When I was about 8/9 I wrote a note saying goodbye, I had no reason whatsoever to wite it. And had no intentions of killing myself, as I didn't really understand how that happened. But I wanted to disappear nevertheless.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:30 AM   #23 (permalink)
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If you don't want to live, you don't have to imo.
So you don't feel there are any moral obligations as a friend, brother, sister, son, daughter or as a parent to not kill yourself?
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So you don't feel there are any moral obligations as a friend, brother, sister, son, daughter or as a parent to not kill yourself?
There are of course, but why should someone live their life hating it feeling an endless torture everyday? I mean it's selfish but if you're so upset you want to kill yourself your family cant care that much or they'd help.
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Of course it's selfish. It's a permenant solution to a temporary emotion, unfortunately people who are wanting to kill themselves usually have the issue of not knowing where to go for help which is sad but the domino effect it will inevitably have on their family is really what makes it selfish.
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I've been depressed, in some ways it still lingers around me like a smoky haze. It shocked me one night a couple of weeks ago as I got drunk alone so I could sleep and contemplated going to the kitchen, getting a knife and stabbing my stomach with it. When I woke up the next day I realised how ridiculous that idea was, but there is still that chance if I was upset enough, maybe I would have done it drunk.

So I don't believe it's black and white. When you think suicidal thoughts yes it is selfish but only because you want to take away the pain. In some ways maybe you might convince yourself that your family would rather you not live in pain anymore.

I just want to add though that I am generally okay and write poetry to get out any negativity. I plan on making a book out of it.
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I don't think that anyone who hasn't been in that kind of state can even begin to assess whether suicide is cowardly or not. It's all in the mindset, and depression really alters your judgement.
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When you think suicidal thoughts yes it is selfish but only because you want to take away the pain.

I just want to add though that I am generally okay and write poetry to get out any negativity. I plan on making a book out of it.
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I think most people who kill themselves do so because they feel anything is preferable to the excruciating emotional pain of living that they are experiencing. I suspect many people who want to kill themselves wrestle with feeling it is selfish and escapist, and then that probably makes them feel worse about themselves. Labeling people as selfish for being unable to figure a way out of their suffering doesn't help.
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You have the right to do what your parents religious beliefs and abortion laws couldn't do if you see fit, IMO. Some people don't like life, never have, and never will. Suicide is something we should try to reach out to and prevent. But it's going to happen, we should all accept it as a normal method of death. Until we can make life in this world perfect for everyone in it, people will be killing themselves... deal with it.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:03 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I wish I didn't put in the sometimes option, too many people will be getting splinters sat on that fence.
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I've suffered from depression on and off over the past couple of years, and i'd be lying if i said i'd never thought about suicide, it just seemed like the simplest solution sometimes. But when one of my sister's best friends killed herself last Christmas i saw first hand the devastation that suicide can cause, she left behind her two year old son as well as her family and friends, it was really difficult to make sense of it all and nearly seven months later my sister has never fully gotten over it. It really made me realise that suicide is definitely not worth doing, it's a selfish solution to your own personal problems that causes pain and devastation to everyone that cares about you.
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