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butthead aka 216 02-18-2014 12:57 PM

seq. all i can say is avoid any nike slogan sides for the near future.



and well ya gotta see if youre really makin moves to eventualyl be in a good position. are ya makin moves to get closer to havin sex and a new job. what are you doin today that will help that goal be reached.... if you arent then do somethin to get closer to that goal. if you already are then you should feel good about that

WWWP 02-18-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sequoioideae (Post 1417558)
My depression is starting to act up again, I don't know why, but I've been thinking about just offing myself a lot more than I usually do. I'm just working and sleeping, I haven't had sex in 2 years, and I haven't been on a date in about 2 years. I'm going crazy seeing all my friends have fun with their lives, and I'm here alone, in bed. I wish I wasn't alive so I could spare myself, and others all of my bullshit. I've flat out tried to make people hate me when I'm hysterical, but they just look at me crazy. Just let me die, please, I'll be happier dead than living the next 20 years of my life alone and possibly working in a grocery store. Why don't people try to encourage others to commit suicide, especially when they've been unhappy most of their lives? They just let them exist in a pit of total unhappiness, but the moment they try and do anything to end it they just tell them to seek help and that it's wrong. They don't care about me, they only care because someone they know will be dead, and death is "scary". If someone wants to die so badly, why not let them end it to spare them of any more suffering?

Been there, friend. ****ty place to be. If you want I'll tell you what ultimately made me decide to stick it out, you have my number. Know you're not alone.

Forward To Death 02-20-2014 02:27 PM

Not very many people out there want to be the one who convinces you that suicide is the right thing. It's a choice that ends your existence, that will likely depress your family and friends, and it's relatively short-sighted, isn't it? If there's even one single thing in the world that you want to do, it's too early to contemplate suicide.

Tristesse 02-20-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sequoioideae (Post 1417558)
My depression is starting to act up again, I don't know why, but I've been thinking about just offing myself a lot more than I usually do. I'm just working and sleeping, I haven't had sex in 2 years, and I haven't been on a date in about 2 years. I'm going crazy seeing all my friends have fun with their lives, and I'm here alone, in bed. I wish I wasn't alive so I could spare myself, and others all of my bullshit. I've flat out tried to make people hate me when I'm hysterical, but they just look at me crazy. Just let me die, please, I'll be happier dead than living the next 20 years of my life alone and possibly working in a grocery store. Why don't people try to encourage others to commit suicide, especially when they've been unhappy most of their lives? They just let them exist in a pit of total unhappiness, but the moment they try and do anything to end it they just tell them to seek help and that it's wrong. They don't care about me, they only care because someone they know will be dead, and death is "scary". If someone wants to die so badly, why not let them end it to spare them of any more suffering?

There was a boy who I knew from school who took his own life a couple of weeks ago, and I don't think he realised how many people actually cared about him and enjoyed having him in their lives. I don't think the reason people don't encourage suicide to others is because they're scared of death, I think it's because they don't want to lose them from their lives. (Community devastated by death of teenager Eddie Pearse who was hit by train at Winchester (From Hampshire Chronicle))

I've had quite a bit of what I'm pretty sure is depression since the wonderful event that was puberty, but I'm starting to think it might just be because I'm doing pretty much the same thing every day. It seems to go away when I have quite a big change in my life (eg. moving from school to college, or starting to learn to play guitar), so maybe you need to make a large change in your life. Quit your job, move to a different town? Or learn to play a new instrument or join a new band and play some gigs? I find the feeling of playing on stage to be a real buzz, even if it's just in some dingy pub. Do some things that make you feel alive. I'm not going to say "try and take your mind off the depression" because I know that's only a short term solution. But if your friends don't understand what you're going through, find some new friends. It is never too late to change your life and start afresh somewhere new.

Cuthbert 02-20-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1417556)
Aww that's no good. I hope you feel better bb.

Anxiety is deeply rooted within my family and I have had times in the last 2 weeks where I was so anxious that I felt my body was exploding, my heart racing, feeling tight in my throat, my stomach in knots, my breathing intense and my head extremely sore and blurry. Once you get into it, it's very hard to recover. I'm still not 100% back to normal but am controlling it by not allowing myself to think about what I have ahead of me.

:(

Yes, I am feeling much better now thank you. I did go to the GP and he checked everything out, & said it was fine and caused by anxiety.

Do you take anything for your physical symptoms?

YorkeDaddy 02-20-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristesse (Post 1418583)
I've had quite a bit of what I'm pretty sure is depression since the wonderful event that was puberty, but I'm starting to think it might just be because I'm doing pretty much the same thing every day. It seems to go away when I have quite a big change in my life (eg. moving from school to college, or starting to learn to play guitar), so maybe you need to make a large change in your life. Quit your job, move to a different town? Or learn to play a new instrument or join a new band and play some gigs? I find the feeling of playing on stage to be a real buzz, even if it's just in some dingy pub. Do some things that make you feel alive. I'm not going to say "try and take your mind off the depression" because I know that's only a short term solution. But if your friends don't understand what you're going through, find some new friends. It is never too late to change your life and start afresh somewhere new.

This is the best advice I've ever seen on this forum.

WWWP 02-20-2014 05:41 PM

Yeah but depression largely prohibits you from making those changes.

Dr_Rez 02-20-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner (Post 1418660)
Yeah but depression largely prohibits you from making those changes.

Agreed. I think having someone to talk to in person or even online that has been through it and has gotten better is the best way to get past it. My mom has always been that person for me and a woman I met over yahoo answers surprisingly.

Basically if you see someone else who was in an even worse or equally bad position can get out of it you will possibly see that "light" that depression blocks.

Tristesse 02-20-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner (Post 1418660)
Yeah but depression largely prohibits you from making those changes.

Fair point. Then maybe work your way up to changing, so take a part of your life that you DO enjoy and evolve it so it takes up most of your time, rather than the things that you don't enjoy. If it's music, keep working on it and working on it so it becomes a bigger part of your life, then try and work it into your career. That way, change is inevitable and it won't be an immediate shock and won't require as much energy/willpower, but you'll get the same end result.

Forward To Death 02-20-2014 06:40 PM

To the OP of the current subject, don't get too caught up in thinking about the complexities of depression. That's what I did, everyone was trying to tell me it was either a very complex issue, or that I wasn't really depressed, and true depression is this, etc.

I know I was depressed, because I didn't feel like life was worth living. I was very aimless for a few years, and I contemplated suicide, even though I never told anyone. Seeing through the cynical bull**** illusions that depression creates is pretty much everything to beating it. I found it to be actually very simple once I figured out that the root of my problem was just me being way too cynical about literally everything, from everyday things that I have no control over, to my ideas on what my life should be. Don't censor your thoughts, and just go out and do some things that you think would help you to improve your life, even something as simple as saving a little extra money to go visit Sweden or something.


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