Depression and suicide

djchameleon · 02-20-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs

Agreed. I think having someone to talk to in person or even online that has been through it and has gotten better is the best way to get past it. My mom has always been that person for me and a woman I met over yahoo answers surprisingly.

Basically if you see someone else who was in an even worse or equally bad position can get out of it you will possibly see that "light" that depression blocks.

Having someone to talk to didn't work for me because I pushed everyone that even remotely cared about me away and isolated myself.

My depression got so bad that I wouldn't leave the house, used to order delivery food every other night and wasn't even taking baths because I just didn't care. Something just clicked inside of me one day and I was finally able to pull myself up out of that state on my own and decided to get my shit together.

WWWP · 02-20-2014, 10:58 PM

Everyone's experience with depression is their own. If there was an easy fix or advice that to be followed that worked for everyone the lifespan of depression would be significantly shorter. I'm very wary of the "just try ___" or "have you thought about..." suggestions that are commonly offered. That's not to say they're invaluable, but let's not pretend it's as easy as just making a change.

djchameleon · 02-20-2014, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

Everyone's experience with depression is their own. If there was an easy fix or advice that to be followed that worked for everyone the lifespan of depression would be significantly shorter. I'm very wary of the "just try ___" or "have you thought about..." suggestions that are commonly offered. That's not to say they're invaluable, but let's not pretend it's as easy as just making a change.

No one is pretending like it's easy to just make a change.

People are just offering up their advice of what has worked for them. I don't see what's so wrong about that.

WWWP · 02-20-2014, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

No one is pretending like it's easy to just make a change.

People are just offering up their advice of what has worked for them. I don't see what's so wrong about that.

Didn't say there was anything wrong with it.

Tristesse · 02-21-2014, 07:04 AM

Britain's male suicide rate is a national tragedy | Ally Fogg | Comment is free | theguardian.com

Don't know if any of you have read this, saw it this morning and thought it was quite interesting.

DoesntReallyMatter · 02-24-2014, 08:02 AM

Life is suffering.
Period.

How you deal with it is... 'something else'.
Since we're in a music site:

(lyrics)

Quote:

You hide inside, so not okay
(keep on, keep on livin')
What if you remember more today?
(Keep on, keep on livin')
The phone rings but there's too much to say
(keep on, keep on livin')
You tell them to go when you wish they would stay
(keep on, keep on livin')
You gotta keep on (keep on livin')...
Disproportionate reactions just won't fade
(keep on, keep on livin')
Every dude you see puts you in a rage
(keep on, keep on livin')
Or stupid **** keeps making you cry
(keep on, keep on livin')
Your friends are worried you won't tell them why
(keep on, keep on livin')
You gotta keep on (keep on livin!)...
Look up to the sky sky sky.
Take back your own tonight.
You'll find more than you see.
It's time now now get ready.
So you can taste that sweet sweet cake
And feel the warm water in a lake (y'know).
What about that nice cool breeze?
And hear the buzzing of the bumble bees.
Just live beyond those neighborhood lives
And go past the yard outside
And push through your greatest fears
And live past your memories ters
Cuz you don't need to scratch inside.
Just please hold onto your pride and...
So don't let them bring you down
And don't let them **** you around cuz those are you arms,
That is your heat and no no they can't tear you apart.
They can't take it away, no!
This is your time this is your life and...
(keep on livin!)...

And, 'Stand Up (If You're Brave) ~ Bombs Enduring Blah Blah Blah...

FETCHER. · 02-25-2014, 06:45 AM

Is there any members I'm rather 'close' with that have suffered from depression? I would really like to chat.

Taxman · 02-25-2014, 07:07 AM

I have been mildly depressed for ages, more than one year anyway, and it has not been so serious that I have had to get help.
However, lately it has been getting gradually worse. I never used to have self-destructive thoughts, or if I had, I never though about it seriously. Lately, I don't know why, basically everything is still ok in my life, it has changed. Nearly everyday I sometimes get a sudden urge to either hurt myself (which I usually can fight against successfully, and sometimes even that it would be much better to be dead.
It's.funny, I don't know how depression works usually and how my relatively young age (16) affects this, but it is that I can be normal (which means that I can say I'm happy but anyway and all of sudden I feel awful and want to dl something terrible for myself. As it is, strong changes of mood are usual for teenagers, but I would like to think that it's not normal to have feeling like this.
So if usually people have told me that depression is a long dark tunnel, the case of mine is not like that. I would rather say that most of the time I feel gray, which means I do everything I do normally, but I don't get any enjoyment and I am in it really. If you understand what I mean.
And if I normally feel like I could not careless, even with my friends I usually remain silent and I'd rather run away, that's not the worst aspect. This is how I feel normally, and it is not so bad. But when one gets a urge to hurt himself, one knows something is terribly wrong. What if once when I get that feeling, I lose my control completely and I do something terrible for myself. It scares me a little.
So maybe the only way out is to get some help. There's nothing more scary than when you really can't control yourself at all. And sorry for the length of this text, I had to write this.

BastardofYoung · 03-05-2014, 12:43 PM

Found out today I have a good friend who wound up in psych unit for being suicidal, had her on suicide watch and all.

As for the argument of is it cowardly, sure it has been discussed in great detail and I will not offer anything new here. But I have to rule it is hard to really say. In order to understand it it is a matter of having to know a persons mental state, genetics, psychology and much more. I do not think it can be answered with a simple "yes" or "no", or even just say it depends on circumstance.

I can not offer much out to really get deeper into this. Just what is going through my head right now with this news.

Taxman · 03-17-2014, 11:03 AM

Gonna see a psychologist tomorrow, for a second time.

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02-25-2014, 07:07 AM	#618 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	I have been mildly depressed for ages, more than one year anyway, and it has not been so serious that I have had to get help. However, lately it has been getting gradually worse. I never used to have self-destructive thoughts, or if I had, I never though about it seriously. Lately, I don't know why, basically everything is still ok in my life, it has changed. Nearly everyday I sometimes get a sudden urge to either hurt myself (which I usually can fight against successfully, and sometimes even that it would be much better to be dead. It's.funny, I don't know how depression works usually and how my relatively young age (16) affects this, but it is that I can be normal (which means that I can say I'm happy but anyway and all of sudden I feel awful and want to dl something terrible for myself. As it is, strong changes of mood are usual for teenagers, but I would like to think that it's not normal to have feeling like this. So if usually people have told me that depression is a long dark tunnel, the case of mine is not like that. I would rather say that most of the time I feel gray, which means I do everything I do normally, but I don't get any enjoyment and I am in it really. If you understand what I mean. And if I normally feel like I could not careless, even with my friends I usually remain silent and I'd rather run away, that's not the worst aspect. This is how I feel normally, and it is not so bad. But when one gets a urge to hurt himself, one knows something is terribly wrong. What if once when I get that feeling, I lose my control completely and I do something terrible for myself. It scares me a little. So maybe the only way out is to get some help. There's nothing more scary than when you really can't control yourself at all. And sorry for the length of this text, I had to write this. __________________ ...

03-05-2014, 12:43 PM	#619 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Found out today I have a good friend who wound up in psych unit for being suicidal, had her on suicide watch and all. As for the argument of is it cowardly, sure it has been discussed in great detail and I will not offer anything new here. But I have to rule it is hard to really say. In order to understand it it is a matter of having to know a persons mental state, genetics, psychology and much more. I do not think it can be answered with a simple "yes" or "no", or even just say it depends on circumstance. I can not offer much out to really get deeper into this. Just what is going through my head right now with this news. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

03-17-2014, 11:03 AM	#620 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	Gonna see a psychologist tomorrow, for a second time. __________________ ...