Depression and suicide

Mondo Bungle · 02-23-2015, 04:06 PM

I was gonna hang myself with a belt one day but I didn't know how to attach it to something, tied it to a tree branch and it just broke off, then decided **** it, might as well not.

Chula Vista · 02-23-2015, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

We know you're smart man, it made the front page

Brilliant! I salute you.

ladyislingering · 02-23-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

I was gonna hang myself with a belt one day but I didn't know how to attach it to something, tied it to a tree branch and it just broke off, then decided **** it, might as well not.

not to mention the fact that if you fasten the belt the wrong way, you're just going to suffocate and be completely aware of your death to the bitter end.

and on the offchance that someone might try to save you, and you survive, you'll probably be at least a little retarded forever.

DwnWthVwls · 02-23-2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i dunno why having a mental illness renders it not a choice. that's like saying drunk driving isn't a choice cause at the time of the decision to drive their cognitive skills were impaired.

Depression is a physical imbalance not some made up disorder based on nothing to do with brain function. If depression was as simple as making a choice to get out of bed it wouldn't be an issue. I understand what you saying, at the end of the day that person makes a decision to off themselves but you have to question their state of mind at the time and figure out if it was a rational decision or something driven by the disorder. If it was because of the disorder I wouldn't necessarily call that a choice.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 02-23-2015, 11:49 PM

i still consider it a choice even if it's driven by disorder. people have all sorts of disorders that can affect the choices they make. i don't see where you draw the line. but this sorta feels like a semantic dispute more than an ideological one tbh, i think i get why it would feel like its not a choice to the person it's happening to.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 02-23-2015, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

We know you're smart man, it made the front page

If that's your own work, I like it.

The Batlord · 02-23-2015, 11:57 PM

I think we've managed to find a white, teenage Soulflower.

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

We know you're smart man, it made the front page

****ing amazing! I just saved the pic to make sure it's never lost to the sands of time. The fact that I am quoted on one side, and my thread is glorified on the other in no way influences my love of this post.

But seriously though, vote in the death metal battle of my Metal Survivor thread. Don't be a bitch.

Chula Vista · 02-24-2015, 03:58 PM

This thread has been focusing on depression the past few pages. That's only one of many reasons why people try to commit suicide. These are a few others.

1. Loss of Hope.
2. Frustration.
3. Fear.
4. Psychosis.
5. Drugs and/or alcohol.
6. Regret.
7. Fed up with life/society.
8. Heartbreak.
9. Massive life change.
10. Terminal illness

It's an amazingly complex subject which is why I get frustrated with those that try to tidy it all up with a few select sentences they get out of some article.

DwnWthVwls · 02-24-2015, 04:24 PM

Every one of those things can be linked to depression, and with the exception of terminal illness, fear, and psychosis I don't think you can have one without the other.

Chula Vista · 02-24-2015, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Every one of those things can be linked to depression, and with the exception of terminal illness, fear, and psychosis I don't think you can have one without the other.

There's being depressed and then there's suffering from clinical depression.

From the Mayon Clinic site:

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Depression ranges in seriousness from mild, temporary episodes of sadness to severe, persistent depression. Clinical depression is the more severe form of depression, also known as major depression or major depressive disorder. It isn't the same as depression caused by a loss, such as the death of a loved one, or a medical condition, such as a thyroid disorder.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	This thread has been focusing on depression the past few pages. That's only one of many reasons why people try to commit suicide. These are a few others. 1. Loss of Hope. 2. Frustration. 3. Fear. 4. Psychosis. 5. Drugs and/or alcohol. 6. Regret. 7. Fed up with life/society. 8. Heartbreak. 9. Massive life change. 10. Terminal illness It's an amazingly complex subject which is why I get frustrated with those that try to tidy it all up with a few select sentences they get out of some article. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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02-23-2015, 11:49 PM	#725 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	i still consider it a choice even if it's driven by disorder. people have all sorts of disorders that can affect the choices they make. i don't see where you draw the line. but this sorta feels like a semantic dispute more than an ideological one tbh, i think i get why it would feel like its not a choice to the person it's happening to.