John Wilkes Booth

that still seems like a choice to me.

i dunno why having a mental illness renders it not a choice. that's like saying drunk driving isn't a choice cause at the time of the decision to drive their cognitive skills were impaired.

also i don't get why the argument about whether or not it's cowardly is centered around whether or not it's a choice. it could be a choice and still not be cowardly. for example those gangster pics i posted before.

in conclusion: this whole argument seems emotionally driven by the conflicting urges to dissuade suicide and to comfort suicidals

Mondo Bungle

brah have you ever even psychologized

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Frownland

My point was made against your claim that suicide is never a decision, your 'important grammatical cues' that you think you're so great at implementing still paints depression as a singular thing, which is why I made my snarky little comment. If you don't want people arguing semantics don't express your opinions in such a poorly worded manner.

Also there's this rare event that occurs sometimes where people debate without directly insulting them, you might want to look into that.

And for your pleasure, a straw man argument is a fallacy where you depict your opponent's opinion as something entirely different and claiming that's what they're actually saying and attacking that instead of the actual argument put forward. You might want to check out fallacies on the whole, they seem to be a favourite of yours.

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grtwhtgrvty

This post is too moronic to address tbh

EDIT: **** it i'll bite.

Where, specifically. More straw man.

Backpedaling. Didn't read my simply worded post carefully enough. Pretending that my post was poorly worded when it wasn't in any way verbose or difficult to understand.

Hypocrisy.

That's what you did. The point that you said I made isn't the point that I made, not even close. So yeah, you did that.

Frownland

See point two. It's a debate, people disagree with you but instead of joining in on the conversation all I'm hearing is 'way, quit attacking me!'

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grtwhtgrvty

You sure do have a lot of difficulty with comprehension.

Frownland

I forgot to add "you're stupid, why aren't you as smart as I think I am?"

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Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

grtwhtgrvty

In everyone else's case it had nothing to do with stupidity -- rather ignorance, but you, no.. You're definitely a moron.

Frownland

Here:
Not what you meant? Please clarify then.

If my impression of what you meant conflicts with what you actually meant that means you expressed your opinions poorly.

I like returning favours. You'll see me doing it all over the forum where I mock someone's logic by emulating it. Satire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As mentioned above it's probably because I misunderstood what you were saying. Could you clarify for us simpletons? It'd be a lot more constructive than resorting to petty attacks. Doesn't change the fact that it's exactly what you did.

I'd appreciate it if you at least attempted not being a dick.

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Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

grtwhtgrvty

What I meant is what I said -- that suicide is when mental illness kills someone, depression as an example. You're reading into subtext that isn't there. Reading into non existent subtext literally has nothing to do with my ability to express a point. I think you need to go back to the 7th grade and have a teacher address, very slowly, critical thinking and reading comprehension. I know our school system is ****, but come on.

Nice generalization. Absolutely no logic made in this point whatsoever. Sweeping generalization. It's not my fault that you missed the point.


Already did.

Hypocrisy under the guise of satire.