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Don't pick on the leaf-eaters RT, it's not fair.

Anyway, this guy is now saying he's only postponing the burning event pending that he gets a meeting with the people behind the "ground-zero mosque". He's basically realized the political power of this whole media thing and is holding it hostage.

Afghans protest, Fla. pastor plans to meet NY imam - Yahoo! News

I'm almost thinking this situation could be WORSE if it actually happens. This guy, meeting face to face with the people behind the moque could be a complete disaster. We do not need this guy being the face of our nation. Whether people in America take him seriously or not, he will/already has changed the way the Middle-Eastern Islamic community looks at America as a whole.

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Zaqarbal

Yes, respect. Respect for MORAL SUBJECTS. But:

• Dead people ARE NOT moral subjects (because they don't exist anymore).
• Belief systems ARE NOT moral subjects (because they are abstractions).

The expresion "insult Islam" has the same moral meaning as "insult the metric system" or "insult basketball rules".

Sure? Let's see a football example: St George's Cross.

"St George's Cross has been adopted on the coat of arms and flags of several countries and cities which have St George as a patron saint, notably England, Georgia, Aragon, Greece, Genoa and Barcelona." (Wikipedia)

Therefore, many football teams include the cross in their badge. But.... it turns out to be that St George's Cross is "offensive" to some Muslims:

TheOPINIONATOR: ENGLISH CROSS OF ST GEORGE FLAG DEEMED OFFENSIVE TO MUSLIMS

In Spain, SD Huesca was warned in 2008 that its shirt could "provoke violence" (sic). When this was known, sales of team's shirt rised spectacularly. Because people wanted to show "respect", of course. Or was it freedom?

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right-track

That has to be the biggest pile of bullshit I've read on these boards.
Stop splitting hairs.
I'm talking about the act of burning the Koran!

Whether or not it should be taken as an insult is academic.
This is the real world. Allow me to illustrate.

Zaqarbal

I knew it: pearls before swine. OK, keep in your tabloid culture and forget me.

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anybody see the interview this morning with the Today show?

this guy really believes that he is a vessel of god....and that his actions are in no way causing harm....even when confronted with the fact that his actions are causing violent reactions that have already caused the death of one american.....he replied by stating that his actions should mean nothing to muslims and that it is them who are over reacting....yet this entire "protest" of his is in direct retaliation of a mosque proposal in NYC and the fact that god came to him and told him it was just to darn close to our sacred 'ground zero'

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Religious people are crazy, what's new?

right-track

Who are the real crazies. Them?...or us for idly standing by?

Spike*Spiegel

And just what do you propose we do about it?

right-track

Well you could read my previous posts, Spike.

Without sounding like I'm preaching here. You could always do what we did with the Irish...compromise.
It took us both 40 years of death and conflict to work that one out.

Spike*Spiegel

I have been reading your posts, RT. I don't think that anyone is going to disagree with you in that this guy is a basket case and is, in my opinion, abusing his right to free speech; however, it's not like we can mobilize a lynch mob to shut him up. While he may be abusing his right and walking a fine line between expressing his opinion and committing a hate crime, he is still within the law. The vast majority of the public can see this guy for the nutjob that he is, but all we can do is shake our heads in dismay. Our hands are tied. We can't go out there and physically bar or silence him.