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Old 11-22-2010, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Possible ban coming on alchoholic energy drinks, such As FourLoko and Joose

Banning them or making the companies remove caffiene and guarana from their products isn't gonna solve a damn thing. They need to educate people, especially minors, on the effects of mixing stimulants with alchohol.

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Old 11-22-2010, 03:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I heard this last year at Christmas time... Then I heard it through this year. And a couple days ago everyone said Lokos were officially gone from shelves. Yet I went down to the bottle shop and still saw them there. The lady working there told me that they were encouraged to take them off the shelves, but weren't made to do anytihng. And they are huge sellers so obviously they aren't going to remove them if they don't have to. I don't see the big deal to be honest. All alcohol is dangerous if you use too much of it. Kids are gonna be stupid and drink too much regardless of what alcohol is out there. Some people just want to get ****ed up beyond belief, and if lokos arent available, they'll just find something else. I personally like four Loko, they are cheap and I don't mind the taste for the price and the drunk it gives me.
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Local agencies that track substance abuse are concerned about the youth-oriented marketing and health effects of alcoholic energy drinks being studied by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
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The letters challenge the companies to remove caffeine from their alcoholic malt beverages because of studies that show the combination can lead people to underestimate how drunk they are and engage in dangerous behavior.
I think a ban on these type of drinks could be perfectly legitimate. The government has every right to interfere with your personal liberty when you're too stupid to realize that drinking a FourLoko and then driving to a party could lead to a fatal accident.

As a resident of perhaps the biggest college party town in the United States, I think the concerns presented in this article are perfectly valid.
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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how is banning the pre-combined drinks going to stop someone from just getting an un-alcoholized version of the drink and then just mixing it?

you know, like exactly how people used to do it before the companies figured out how to cash in by pre-mixing things for us. then again i'm in Canada and you can't legally buy booze outside of controlled licensed establishments. i'm boggled by the duality / hypocrisy of the American stance on alcohol.

if you don't want it in the hands of children don't sell it in the grocery store and don't make it bright and colourful and fun.

it's like when we ran into a group of youths drinking on the west coast years ago showing off this new beer they got in plastic bottles... 'It's so great, it doesn't even matter if i drop it!'. no adult with half a clue in their head would buy beer in a plastic bottle (GROSS!), it's obviously marketed to kids who don't know much of anything and who obviously haven't learned their limits.

yet... there it is, right next to the milk
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how is banning the pre-combined drinks going to stop someone from just getting an un-alcoholized version of the drink and then just mixing it?

you know, like exactly how people used to do it before the companies figured out how to cash in by pre-mixing things for us. then again i'm in Canada and you can't legally buy booze outside of controlled licensed establishments. i'm boggled by the duality / hypocrisy of the American stance on alcohol.

if you don't want it in the hands of children don't sell it in the grocery store and don't make it bright and colourful and fun.

it's like when we ran into a group of youths drinking on the west coast years ago showing off this new beer they got in plastic bottles... 'It's so great, it doesn't even matter if i drop it!'. no adult with half a clue in their head would buy beer in a plastic bottle (GROSS!), it's obviously marketed to kids who don't know much of anything and who obviously haven't learned their limits.

yet... there it is, right next to the milk
In my state they don't sell it in grocery stores Lol, I wish i could buy it next to the milk! Save me an extra trip down the street. People are making too much of Four Lokos. I can go to the bar and drink a ton of Jagerbombs and nobody cares. People like to drink, people like to get drunk. College kids are still going to be hospitalized every year from drinking too much, it has nothing to do with Lokos.
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I think a ban on these type of drinks could be perfectly legitimate. The government has every right to interfere with your personal liberty when you're too stupid to realize that drinking a FourLoko and then driving to a party could lead to a fatal accident.

As a resident of perhaps the biggest college party town in the United States, I think the concerns presented in this article are perfectly valid.
I'm with you on this.
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You know a fun fact that I just learned recently (although I'm not sure if it's true so help me out)?

Apparently in the US, it is only the sale of alcohol to minors and the purchasing of alcohol by minors which is illegal. As well as public possession of alcohol by a minor. So it isn't technically illegal to drink in my own house? Not that I ever cared when I did, anyway.



But anyway, like mr. dave said - what's to stop people from just mixing them? Although I guess it's less of an encouragement to do so.
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But anyway, like mr. dave said - what's to stop people from just mixing them? Although I guess it's less of an encouragement to do so.
Nothing, just as nothing is stopping people from shorting out on Ecstasy if they really want to. Just because we can't absolutely prevent something doesn't mean we shouldn't impose restrictions on it.
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Yeah, that's what I thought too. I just wanted to say something vaguely relative to the discussion so you'd all like me better.
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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We shouldn't make it easier for stupid people to do stupid things. If they're really hell bent on making themselves sick after that, then it's just natural selection.
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