chiron

^^ geez, you're no kid.

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I don't think there's such a thing as a 'Generation z'.
It's just a bit of puberty, a bit of trends and in the end we're all different.
I can qualify none of my friends as a part of any "generation".
I have some friends who were born in the 90's, who don't follow any 'mainstream' trend.
But then I tend to get on well with Punks, metalheads and autistic people ;D.

Cellphones are handy by the way, but I do get scared of the way some people use them.
My phone has a camera, internet and it's a phone, too. I use it when I need it, which is not all the friggin' time.

(I sure as hell can't qualify Dayvan Cowboy here as a Generation Z type.)

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Wiki:
It has been suggested that the next generation, born from 2010, will be called "Generation Alpha".

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CanwllCorfe

I can sort of see this happening. I think they may be overstating it, but parents are definitely getting more and more lenient. I don't think we should be too strict or overbearing, but I'm wondering what kind of standards they hold for their kids. I'm almost in this generation, but I guess I miss it by 5 years. This sounds like what I went through in high school, so I think they are definitely generalizing. I know kids who were insanely dedicated and intelligent, and I also knew many who could care less about school and skipped most of the time. A friend of some friends, I don't know his name, said he went to college 2 times in the last month or so. Everyone thought that was hilarious, but I thought it was horrible. I quite like reading up on things I don't know about and I like doing puzzles that help keep the brain moving. Mainly cryptograms and logic puzzles like these:



I also have 2 apps on my iPhone that I use quite a bit. One has 2,000 different words that are supposedly advanced (like "wend" and "obstreperous"), and the other one is all about Geography and currency.

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MoonlitSunshine

Obstreperous is such an awesome word, and amusingly apt given the subject...

Tbh, there was nothing in that article that I didn't already suspect, though I'll be damned if my children turn out that way. It's odd, it's one of those things that I've spent a lot of time thinking about, and I'm pretty sure at this point that I can manage it :P

Regarding technology: I wasn't given a phone till I was 13 or so, but at the same time, I didn't want one. I think to a certain extent technology is becoming more and more a part of society. I have nothing against it being introduced at a younger age, so long as it's done in moderation, and controlled. I'm sure a lot of us are all to familiar with how hours can disappear over a computer/video game... So long as the advantages, merits and need for other activities and communication by methods other than text and phone are instilled at the same time (or preferably, before), I don't see any real problems occuring.

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Janszoon

Yep. It always makes me think of this quote, which tells me people have been talking smack about the younger generation for a long, long time:

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

--Socrates

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LoathsomePete

Aww man I don't want to think of Socrates as a crotchity old fuck. It more or less reminds me of a book I read a few years ago called The Dumbest Generation: How The Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future, I got about 50 pages in before I had to stop because it just read like a "listen here young whippersnappers, why back in my day we had to actually work for a living, we had to walk to school up hills both ways, blah blah blah." I lent it to a friend of mine who has a tendency to write comments in books, and within a week half the damn margins were full of counterpoints. It also reminds me of an article I read a few years ago from somewhere in New England where some old newspaper printings from the 18th century were discovered and there were some editorial sections complaining about the laziness of the coming generation, it was pretty much a paraphrase of that Socrates quote you found.

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Scarlett O'Hara

I do think parents let children get away with a lot more. My mother thinks it's rubbish how kids get away with being the center of attention all of the time when there should be quite time for adults to convene.

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Yeah, following Gen X is usually refered to as the Millenials or the iGeneration. People who are calling it Gen Y don't have any knowledge of sociological study to date.

If X had refered to the letter alone, I could see that, but Gen X is in the vein of "Formula X" "Patient X" "X factor".

Also, the generation following X, 1980 - 2000 I guess, isn't that bad. Its the kids raised by Generation X that are really ****ed up. No parental discipline, tech focused, highly anti-social. This is why Libertarianism is so high right now, we need people to kill themselves off.

(that last part was tongue-in-cheek)

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Astronomer

TBH this is what everyone says when every new generation comes along. When my parents were kids, their parents were probably saying "Gosh, kids today can get away with anything!" Then the generation Xs copped the flack. Then us Gen Ys got bagged out for being lazy or selfish. Now it's Generation Zs turn to be insulted.

The "Kids today..." statement has probably occurred all throughout time. Of course there's going to be generational differences because we've grown up in different worlds.

I currently teach kids who are 4-5 years old so they are bordering on Generation Z and the next generation which is apparently Generation Alpha. I think they are amazing. They are so cluey, and so much more multiliterate than I was at that age. They already know how to use computers when they get to school, the other day they were showing me how to do stuff on my iPhone, they can even interpret different camera angles and talk about how they mean different things (i.e. stuff that you do in fricken film studies!). It sounds like trivial stuff but all of it helps immensely with their literacy learning. And they were born in 2005-2006, they've only been on this earth for 4 or 5 years...

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