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View Poll Results: Your level of observance?
Non-practicing/secular form of religion 19 44.19%
A little observant 3 6.98%
Middle-of-the-road observance 10 23.26%
Strict adherence to religious rules 4 9.30%
Don't know 7 16.28%
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:13 PM   #141 (permalink)
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all I have to say is that Abrahamic religions prevail because the Jehovah tribe killed more people and conquered more land that the other tribes

i take the Old Testament with a pinch of salt - i mostly believe the miracles of Jesus, though but then again, I'm a Gnostic Christian, and I believe in the Gnostic Gospels as well, stories of Jesus turning his playmates into donkeys and creating butterflies out of sand

and my former church did try to help junkies, not piss on them
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:15 PM   #142 (permalink)
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DO I have to draw pictures for you or something?
Why? Is it easier for you to write in hanzi? If it is go ahead.

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'Twas a metaphor....get it?
In a way the word "religion" is too.

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Religion and all religious people need to be extinguished.
Religion is a metaphor for being "bound" to something. The root "ligare" meaning bound can be found other words in ligature or ligament. Religion is what you bind yourself to - it could be anything from politics to philosophy to a deity. So if you are so adamant about extinguishing religious people you have to reconsider that because you are religiously anti-religious, you are bound to your vehement displeasure of religious people - you clearly display that in your posts. I think you owe crukster an apology.

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Read a book
You forgot the period at the end of the sentence. Who's book smart now?
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:23 PM   #143 (permalink)
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A religious debate turned into a pissing match? Shocked.
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:09 AM   #144 (permalink)
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In a way, you're an atheist too. You deny the existence of all gods except yours.
... Really?
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:27 AM   #145 (permalink)
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Replace one label with another one. Man, you're so edgy. What exactly makes atheism false reasoning? An atheist is someone who does not believe in a God. How many times am I gonna have to say that for you and crukster to understand? You can apply whatever label you want to people who don't believe in God, but there's already a perfectly suitable word for it and that word is "atheist."


Because the belief in God is irrelevant. Society has to move out of the paradigm of supernatural belief;

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atheism is an erroneous concept.

I hope that wasn't too edgy.
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:34 AM   #146 (permalink)
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Why? Is it easier for you to write in hanzi? If it is go ahead.



In a way the word "religion" is too.



Religion is a metaphor for being "bound" to something. The root "ligare" meaning bound can be found other words in ligature or ligament. Religion is what you bind yourself to - it could be anything from politics to philosophy to a deity. So if you are so adamant about extinguishing religious people you have to reconsider that because you are religiously anti-religious, you are bound to your vehement displeasure of religious people - you clearly display that in your posts. I think you owe crukster an apology.



You forgot the period at the end of the sentence. Who's book smart now?


Your arguing semantics doesn't disguise your imbecility.


By 'drawing pictures' I meant, do I have to simplify it enough for you to understand? and it seems that I do. But, judging from all the verbiage you've dumped here, you would still entirely miss the point.
I don't think you noticed, but the topic of religion here has not been a metaphor.
Please, spare me any more witlessisms.

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Old 03-28-2011, 04:43 AM   #147 (permalink)
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Because the belief in God is irrelevant. Society has to move out of the paradigm of supernatural belief;

ergo:

atheism is an erroneous concept.

I hope that wasn't too edgy.
What it lacked in edginess it made up for in stupidity. Belief in God is irrelevant? Religion is a gigantic part of pretty much every major culture on this planet so I fail to see how that is not somewhat relevant. "Forget atheism." What exactly is that supposed to mean? Forget the term used for people like myself who don't believe in God? You seem to be one of those people like crukster who thinks atheism is some crazy ideology or big club or something.
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:56 AM   #148 (permalink)
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I think someone is going to get banned out of this... somehow. Or at least get a slap on the wrist.


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You seem to be one of those people like crukster who thinks atheism is some crazy ideology or big club or something.
It's a cult! They sacrifice sheep to their god that they don't believe in.
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:32 AM   #149 (permalink)
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What it lacked in edginess it made up for in stupidity. Belief in God is irrelevant? Religion is a gigantic part of pretty much every major culture on this planet so I fail to see how that is not somewhat relevant. "Forget atheism." What exactly is that supposed to mean? Forget the term used for people like myself who don't believe in God? You seem to be one of those people like crukster who thinks atheism is some crazy ideology or big club or something.

Quit with the name calling. I could insult you, too, and I assure you, I have a lot greater literary dexterity than you, but could you please raise the tone of your messages? I am not your enemy.

Sometimes I find it frustrating when talking about religion because I have to sift through all the 'stock phrases': reactionary phrases from a set stock of words and ideas which always miss the point. It seems that many folks react to any opposition to piety with aspersion and traditional thinking; they simply cannot grasp the notion of a way of life without religion.

Just because it is popular doesn't mean it is relevant. You are about to prove it. Watch, it will be enoyable. I think many other people will join in what is to come.

Dirty, the belief in God and religion is for what purpose? To derive morals and meaning in life, yeah?
From your standpoint, is humanity going in a healthful direction?
Do you think we have set society up in a way that is conducive to ecological, aesthetic, moral, and ideological impetus?

Let's start with the status quo:

Nearly every message and every intention in marketing, television, and popular music is to encourage people to be more egotistical; to "buy this car because it defines you. This is happiness, this is status. This is what 'beautiful' women look like. This is what makes you enviable", et cetera. Do you agree with that? Here's an example: a while ago I saw an advertisement on tv for the Pontiac Vibe car. In the commercial a person drove the Vibe beside a bus. Music was playing in the car and a man sitting in the bus was moving his head to the beat playing in the Vibe. Something else happened, but I don't remember. What is the message there? 'If you drive this car, people will think you are cool and will be more likely to stare at your car when you drive by.'

Surely you have seen such advertisements? I could list hundreds, quite literally, but I don't want to type so much. This is a topic that should be discussed orally.

Here's the current aesthetic standard:

Have you noticed that so many people refer to some women as 'beautiful'? Beautiful should not be a superfical description. It is much deeper than that. Beauty is kalon. The prevalent notion of beauty is superficial. This makes the standard of what is beautiful, much lower. A 'beautiful' woman is....very capable of sharing her DNA and producing a healthy, attractive baby who will most likely be able to carry on the 'seed'.

'Beautiful' is a word to describe something, or someone, that evokes love. It is the essence which is beautiful, not facial symmetry. This smattering of beauty is everywhere, yeah?

This is where society is. The aesthetic standard is much lower; people are very apt to see 'beauty' in simpler things. Surely you agree that this mentality is a product of impulsive, primitive, unintellectual propensity?

The current aesthetic paradigm is encouraging people to pursue a higher role in the status quo. It is distracting people from being individuals; from being morally and socially deep, and fervent. I think it also creates neurosis.

Religion and belief in God is not the cure to all that.

What do you think is better?

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Old 03-28-2011, 07:50 AM   #150 (permalink)
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i don't even have the typing muscles to refute all of that

>rolls eyes up to heaven<
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