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View Poll Results: Your view on our president.
I like him personally, and I agree with what he is doing. 9 25.71%
I like him personally, but I don't agree with what he is doing. 15 42.86%
I don't like him personally, but I agree with what he is doing. 0 0%
I don't like him personally, and I don't agree with what he is doing. 7 20.00%
I don't know/don't care. 3 8.57%
Who's Barrack Obama? 1 2.86%
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:07 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Honestly... I'm a little tired of Obama's attempts to be the 'hip rad cool' president. Watched about 3 minutes. Funny jokes, yes... But Good God... I am a little more concerned about the massive poverty, and wars.
Well aren't you just a good time.

This is why conservatives have a field day with liberals by the way. And just for historical reference, FDR was doing the same **** during the ****ing depression. THE DEPRESSION!

Look up the Fala speech and tell me it isn't the same thing. I can't wait for you folks to line up behind Kucinich again.

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Defensive and peevish even when they’re right. Under the impression that people in politics should play fair, which is probably why they get screwed as often as they do (nb: 2000 Presidential election). Feel guilty about the freedoms their political positions allow them, which is frankly idiotic. Liberals are politically able to have all sorts of freaky mammal sex but typically don’t; good liberal foreplay is a permission slip and three layers of impermeable barriers. The only vaguely liberal person we know of who seemed to enjoy sex in the last 30 years is Clinton, and look what he got out of it.

Fractious and have no sense of loyalty; will publicly tear out the intestines of those closest to them at the most politically inopportune times. The attention spans of poultry; easily distracted from large, useful goals by pointless minutiae. Not only can’t see the forest for the trees, can’t see the trees for the pine needles. Deserve every bad thing that happens to them because they just can’t get their act together. Too bad those they presume to stand for get royally screwed as well.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:11 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Honestly... I'm a little tired of Obama's attempts to be the 'hip rad cool' president. Watched about 3 minutes. Funny jokes, yes... But Good God... I am a little more concerned about the massive poverty, and wars.
This is the whole point of the Correspondents Dinner. They have been doing this for years.

Don't you remember when Stephen Colbert's performance during one of Bush's dinners?

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Old 05-02-2011, 01:41 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Well aren't you just a good time.

This is why conservatives have a field day with liberals by the way. And just for historical reference, FDR was doing the same **** during the ****ing depression. THE DEPRESSION!
FDR actually sort of I don't know... actually fixed a few things, and didn't take no for an answer. Obama simply proposes to change something, and then takes no for an answer.

Besides, conservatives are the laughing stock of the American political spectrum. I mean, THEY voted in a president who almost choked to death on a pretzel.
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How much you want to bet that the Republicans are trying to deflect credit from Obama for this? Also how much do you want to bet that some people are going to actually believe them as well?
How much credit do you think should go to Obama?
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FDR actually sort of I don't know... actually fixed a few things, and didn't take no for an answer. Obama simply proposes to change something, and then takes no for an answer.

Besides, conservatives are the laughing stock of the American political spectrum. I mean, THEY voted in a president who almost choked to death on a pretzel.
Obama hasn't fixed a few things? The man's done quite a bit while in office. I'd imagine you don't like many of them, but accomplishments have been made.
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How much credit do you think should go to Obama?
We don't know exact specifics of this operation yet but I do believe that he should at least receive some of the credit.
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Besides, conservatives are the laughing stock of the American political spectrum. I mean, THEY voted in a president who almost choked to death on a pretzel.
Yeah! Because, conservatives = republicans!

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FDR actually sort of I don't know... actually fixed a few things, and didn't take no for an answer. Obama simply proposes to change something, and then takes no for an answer.
You're uninformed; FDR had drastic portions of his domestic agenda defeated and he was forced to abandon much of his agenda. See: The Second Bill of Rights, for a famous example.
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Well here we go, let me start off by saying I am a conservative, my favorite president is Reagan, and I am willing to back it up. I believe Obama to be a bleeding liberal with no experience in politics period. Not one good thing has come from this mans leadership, I guess Osama, but you give the Seals credit not him. Barry, which is his REAL name, not Barrack, has only added to our debt and pushes a socialist agenda on this country. Obama care THIS. I have no problem with him personally, its the fact that he has no clue on what he is doing.
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We don't know exact specifics of this operation yet but I do believe that he should at least receive some of the credit.
We know that the intel that was gathered, that resulted in finding OBL in the first place, was not only [likely] obtained via Bush-era policy, but that those same policies were staunchly opposed by the left. If you ask me, it seems like credit is being taken, rather than it being deserved. But like you said, without specifics, it's little more than conjecture.
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We know that the intel that was gathered, that resulted in finding OBL in the first place, was not only [likely] obtained via Bush-era policy, but that those same policies were staunchly opposed by the left. If you ask me, it seems like credit is being taken, rather than it being deserved. But like you said, without specifics, it's little more than conjecture.
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Presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain stressed important differences in approach to Pakistan in their first debate.

On the surface, Obama advocated a tougher line, as he has done since the start of his campaign. “If the United States has al Qaeda, (Osama) bin Laden, top-level lieutenants in our sights, and Pakistan is unable or unwilling to act, then we should take them out,” he said. He talked about the $10 billion Washington had given to Pakistan in aid over the last seven years, saying it had failed to rid the border region of al Qaeda and the Taliban

“You have got to deal with Pakistan,” the Illinois senator said, and I coudn’t help thinking how those words will play out in a nation already under immense pressure from both the militants and the United States.

McCain was more considered, saying he would work with the Pakistan government and that new President Asif Ali Zardari’s (whose name he seemed to have mis-pronounced) had his plate full. And he accused his rival of threatening Pakistan with military strikes. “You don’t say that aloud. If you have to do things, you have to do things, and you work with the Pakistani government,” he said.

As the New York Times said, Obama’s position is closer to President George W. Bush who this summer is reported to have authorised American special forces to cross the Afghan-Pakistan border into Pakistan’s tribal areas that al Qaeda and the Taliban have used as a sanctuary.

At its core, the candidates’ argument was about the “central front” in the war on terror. Obama said it was, and always has been, Pakistan’s tribal areas and the neighboring areas of Afghanistan. Iraq, he argued, was a dangerous distraction. McCain made the case that Iraq was the central front, noting that bin Laden himself had declared it the battle ground with America.

But Obama isn’t about to be attacking Pakistan and it would be a mischaracterisation to say he was advocating that position, says Changing up Pakistan blog. During the debate the Democrat made no mention of an attack on Pakistan’s sovereignty, on its people, or on the government, it said.

So how much is the difference between Obama and McCain’s positions on Pakistan one of presentation rather than substance? And equally importantly, would Obama’s strong words on Pakistan come back to haunt him if he were elected president and then compelled to carry through on his threat?
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