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Old 04-06-2011, 11:44 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Surely the burning of the book doesn't matter- the physical words of the Qurán should be in their hearts, not on paper. Even if a book is destroyed, does that make its message also destroyed? No.

I seirously think that these fundie Christians are little more than the real-life equivalent of internet trolls- they wanted a reaction, they got one.
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:24 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Yes it is especially with such claims.
I should have clarified, I was in a hurry. What I meant to say was, whether Tuna has read the Qur'an or not isn't relevant to his overarching point that it doesn't matter how the Muslims in question were provoked or why they reacted the way they did, their reaction to this situation is simply not justifiable or defensible.
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Old 04-06-2011, 04:41 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I should have clarified, I was in a hurry. What I meant to say was, whether Tuna has read the Qur'an or not isn't relevant to his overarching point that it doesn't matter how the Muslims in question were provoked or why they reacted the way they did, their reaction to this situation is simply not justifiable or defensible.
So we should just allow ignorance? No **** it does not jusitfy what they did, but that does not mean his comments ar any less ignorant.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:34 AM   #94 (permalink)
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So we should just allow ignorance? No **** it does not jusitfy what they did, but that does not mean his comments ar any less ignorant.
Are you blind or just an obnoxious twat? I explained myself in the next post which you completely ignored. You never answered my question, either.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:41 AM   #95 (permalink)
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Are you blind or just an obnoxious twat? I explained myself in the next post which you completely ignored. You never answered my question, either.
U mad much brah?

I was pretty sure I answered it when I was on my phone yesterday, but I will answer it right now since your panties are in a twist. Yes I have read it.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:42 AM   #96 (permalink)
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all I can garner from all these religious threads is that discussion of religion itself is sowing the seeds of hate
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:01 PM   #97 (permalink)
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well, they shouldn't burn the Quran, anyway - I may not believe in any of it, but it contains some of the most beautiful poetry ever written - to me, it's like burning Rimbaud or Wordsworth

then again, you can burn the Bible all you want, nobody's gonna give too much of a fuss, I have so many Bibles sometimes I want to tear out their pages to roll my cigarettes and weed in

on the other hand, if you want to uphold every letter of the law, Christians should go on a killing spree of all people having extra-marital affairs - "Thou shall not commit adultery" - it should void "Thou shall not kill" as they're equal commandments - i should think it follows Asimov's 3 laws of robotics:-

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ergo, thou shall not kill unless you kill those who commit adultery
Apart from the jokes and ironies (very good, by the way ), the "robotic" aspect is very interesting. In fact, I'd say it's the heart of the matter. Or the mother of all the matters. Let's say it clear: if in year 2011 there still are millions of people acting mechanically as robots, slaves to a book, unable to take moral decisions by themselves, immerse in an eternal adolescence, then THAT is the real fu**ing problem!!! As Sam Harris rightly says, "The Problem with Islamic Fundamentalism are the Fundamentals of Islam".

From a short-term perspective, and in a purely pragmatic aspect, perhaps we could discuss the advantages or disadvantages of certain minor actions. But those are rare exceptions. We can't renounce to basic principles, such as freedom of expression.

According to the politically-correctness mafia, it is unfair to say that some parts of the globe are more socially-developed than others. But that's the truth. Due to a terrible poverty and a suffocating political and cultural isolation, Afghan people are victims of religious leaders and politicians without scruples.


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the Quran is basically peaceful for the first 10 surahs because Mohammed was living a Christian life, it only got militant, sexist, even perverted after he decided to live like a warlord
No, actually everything was already perverted from the beginning. It was a typical ascendant criminal career: Once you start with camel smuggling, you may end up founding a religion.

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Nah. No problem. If you don't say anything about that bloody motherf***er genocide of Armenians and Kurds named Atatürk, everything is OK.
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Old 04-09-2011, 02:24 AM   #98 (permalink)
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wtf? stupidest move ever.

hi im in afghanistan and for fun im going to burn the koran...think!
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wtf? stupidest move ever.

hi im in afghanistan and for fun im going to burn the koran...think!
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:16 AM   #100 (permalink)
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You don't think perhaps the idiots might be the people who repeatedly ****ed over their country and made them turn to stuff like this in the first place?
Partially. But you'll recall the Afghani man about five years ago who was almost executed because he converted from Islam to Christianity (apostacy is punishable by death). It was what turned me against trying to form democracies in the middle east back when I was still a neocon. You don't have to be a westerner to be killed for disrespecting Islam.
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