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Old 04-05-2011, 12:26 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:27 AM   #72 (permalink)
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What a bunch of idiots. A guy burns a book, and they hold violent protests and kill people that had nothing to do with it whatsoever. Just complete idiots, and I am glad a few of them elected to commit suicide, but it's unfortunate others were injured in the process. I don't care how holy a book is to anyone, it's absurd and just completely idiotic to kill innocent people. It makes zero sense at all. Certain muslims giving the Muslim religion a bad name again, way to go.
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Old 04-05-2011, 11:54 AM   #73 (permalink)
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What a bunch of idiots. A guy burns a book, and they hold violent protests and kill people that had nothing to do with it whatsoever. Just complete idiots, and I am glad a few of them elected to commit suicide, but it's unfortunate others were injured in the process. I don't care how holy a book is to anyone, it's absurd and just completely idiotic to kill innocent people. It makes zero sense at all. Certain muslims giving the Muslim religion a bad name again, way to go.
Of course it's all about a book.

The fact that these people lived in the most war torn country on earth & not some rich leafy American suburb is just a coincidence. right?
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:31 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Of course it's all about a book.

The fact that these people lived in the most war torn country on earth & not some rich leafy American suburb is just a coincidence. right?

You said it, not me. It probably isn't. I don't imagine the reaction would have been the same in the US if something similar happened here. I'm not sure what could be so similiar because I don't think most Americans take the Bible seriously enough to suicide bomb people in response to a Bible burning. The people over there are more used to violence and don't live by the same standards Americans do. A book was burned. The response of some was to kill others who had nothing to do with burning the book. Those people are complete idiots. Their environment undoubtedly plays a part in their choices, as it does for everyone. Doesn't change the fact that they are complete idiots though.
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:40 PM   #75 (permalink)
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You don't think perhaps the idiots might be the people who repeatedly ****ed over their country and made them turn to stuff like this in the first place?
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Maybe, depends on each individual situation. But even so, the Muslims in this case are still morons. And that's really what I'm talking about. Nobody "made" them turn to this. Nobody made some Muslims kill innocent people because a book was burned by a Florida pastor, miles and miles away. Whether it's right or wrong, more people now are going to subscribe to the thought that Muslims are a bunch of savage idiots. I wouldn't participate in a holy book burning of any kind, but at the end of the day all the pastor did was light a book on fire.
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I don't think we should be surprised they kill people for stuff like this. We should be surprised it doesn't happen more often.
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I don't think we should be surprised they kill people for stuff like this. We should be surprised it doesn't happen more often.
Really? Are you blaming America or other countries for this? I don't agree with most of my country's military decisions either, I'm just asking what you think cause I sensed a little attitude in your last few posts. I'm personally not really surprised by anything that happens in the Middle East anymore, but I still find the mentality and logic shocking behind decisions like this.
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:35 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Exactly! Just what I was thinking.

I love how America tries to act all innocent in this situation.

Has anyone here actually read the Quran? Because I'm sensing some serious ignorance.

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"Whoever then acts aggressively against you, inflict injury on him according to the injury he has inflicted on you" verses (2:194)

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God only forbids you respecting and loving those who made war upon you on account of your religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up others in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust." The Quran does not present Islam as a religion of unquestionable pacifism or relentless aggression. Those who do not transgress should be treated humanely and benevolently with complete respect. Those who transgress should be fought, "And fight in the cause of God those who fight against you, and do not commit aggression.

From the woman herself:

Catherine Heseltine, chief executive officer of the Muslim public affairs committee, said burning the Qur'an was one of the most offensive acts to Muslims she could imagine.

"The Qur'an is the most sacred thing to over a billion Muslims worldwide. You can see that in the way Muslims treat the Qur'an, washing before touching it, and in many Muslim homes you will find it on the top shelf above all other books, and we will never destroy the Qur'anic texts."

This, is why people there have reacted the way they did. You might as well have spit on their face.
That book is not the law, so stop trying to justify what they did with it. What kind of a stupid book promotes hatred, revenge, and violence?

And for the record, it says for them to inflict the injury on them according to what they did to you? They burned a book, killing is on a whole other level. You should really be ashamed for trying to justify cold-blooded murder against innocents (who didn't even take part in the burning).

And typical of you to cast America as some umbrella where an individual's actions represent the country as a whole's thoughts.
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That book is not the law, so stop trying to justify what they did with it. What kind of a stupid book promotes hatred, revenge, and violence?

And for the record, it says for them to inflict the injury on them according to what they did to you? They burned a book, killing is on a whole other level. You should really be ashamed for trying to justify cold-blooded murder against innocents (who didn't even take part in the burning).

And typical of you to cast America as some umbrella where an individual's actions represent the country as a whole's thoughts.
I should be ashamed? I just presented the facts. I never ONCE said I supported their beliefs, I was merely showing that unlike our 'western' ideals, they take such a thing as burning a Quran (the book of God's word) incredibly seriously.

When I say America, I mean the people running the country. I adore American's but not their politics.
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