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Old 04-23-2011, 05:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hahaha, I'm sort of torn now.
I really like Freebase Dali, but I ****ing hate the military.
Tough!
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I love the hate for the military I'm seeing here.
Most civilians hate the military and even people that are serving in the military hate it as well so I don't know why you are thinking that it's unpopular to hate the military.

When it comes to DADT, I didn't really see a problem with it either.

Being a veteran from the Navy, yes the stereotype is somewhat true and there are sailors that are gay but we didn't have any issues with the ones that choose to be open about. Similar to what Freebase mentioned earlier, they would be open about it regardless of DADT. We always knew the sailors that were gay and lesbian and it wasn't any qualms or problems with it. I really don't get why civilians that aren't even in the military feel like DADT was such a bad policy. If you were actually in the service, you would see that it's pretty non-existent in this day and age. Well at least in my experience.
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:36 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I love the hate for the military I'm seeing here.
I don't see any hate.

EDIT: I stand corrected... s_k hates the military.

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Most civilians hate the military and even people that are serving in the military hate it as well so I don't know why you are thinking that it's unpopular to hate the military.

When it comes to DADT, I didn't really see a problem with it either.

Being a veteran from the Navy, yes the stereotype is somewhat true and there are sailors that are gay but we didn't have any issues with the ones that choose to be open about. Similar to what Freebase mentioned earlier, they would be open about it regardless of DADT. We always knew the sailors that were gay and lesbian and it wasn't any qualms or problems with it. I really don't get why civilians that aren't even in the military feel like DADT was such a bad policy. If you were actually in the service, you would see that it's pretty non-existent in this day and age. Well at least in my experience.
I've seen many people who have served in the military (some of them being discharged homosexuals) who have denounced the policy (on and off the news). So, it's not just civilians.

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Old 04-23-2011, 09:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I've seen many people who have served in the military (some of them being discharged homosexuals) who have denounced the policy (on and off the news). So, it's not just civilians.
I'm not saying it's only civilians but majority of the outcry that I personally see are from civies.
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I actually don't respect patriotism... or any form of pride for that matter.
That's kind of bizarre.
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I'm not saying it's only civilians but majority of the outcry that I personally see are from civies.
That's probably because civilians make up the majority of U.S. citizens.

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Hahaha, I'm sort of torn now.
I really like Freebase Dali, but I ****ing hate the military.
Tough!
I think you can disagree with something without hating it. Plus, I don't see how Freebase Dali serving (or having served) in the military makes him any less of a likable person. Same goes for DjChameleon.

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Old 04-23-2011, 10:36 AM   #17 (permalink)
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That's kind of bizarre.
it's not that bizarre. I understand that feeling. You didn't get to pick where you were born so the whole pride issue seems moot.


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That's probably because civilians make up the majority of U.S. citizens.
I get that but it's a policy that doesn't affect them directly and they seem to be the loudest opponents of something that I feel like they don't fully understand.
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I get that but it's a policy that doesn't affect them directly and they seem to be the loudest opponents of something that I feel like they don't fully understand.
I understand it. I don't think it was a bad policy for its time, and it served its purpose, but now I don't see a point in keeping it anymore... I think it's a bit strange that the military would discharge others as a result of their sexuality. Sure, I think that flaunting one's sexuality around in others faces is inappropriate (no matter where you are), but I don't think it's right to keep it a secret if people feel the need to be a bit open about it.
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I understand it. I don't think it was a bad policy for its time, and it served its purpose, but now I don't see a point in keeping it anymore... I think it's a bit strange that the military would discharge others as a result of their sexuality. Sure, I think that flaunting one's sexuality around in others faces is inappropriate (no matter where you are), but I don't think it's right to keep it a secret if people feel the need to be a bit open about it.
Honestly, I have to research this more and I'm guessing that is where most of the outrage comes from but I feel like it doesn't even happen that much. It's very rare and circumstantial when that happens. There are openly gay people that serve and they don't get discharged for it.
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I think you can disagree with something without hating it. Plus, I don't see how Freebase Dali serving (or having served) in the military makes him any less of a likable person. Same goes for DjChameleon.
Maybe Dali was his mancrush.
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