Fat People - A Burden On The State?

~~The Virgin~~ · 06-02-2011, 04:56 AM

i'm seeing a lot of hate here towards fat people.
oprah was once obese, right? and she was never a burden to America, economically speaking.

Bloozcrooz · 06-02-2011, 05:13 AM

I watched the movie/documentary" super size" me the other day on youtube and its scary some of the numbers and statistics that were shown. This guy eats McDonalds 3 times a day for 30 days to see what would happen health wise. Yes its a lil extreme but for some its not to far of a stretch from their daily routine. Its free to watch on youtube, and you dont have to download it or anything. Id recommend watching just to see all the problems this guy starts having health wise. Its crazy, and I never really gave it much thought till I watched this the other day. Im lucky enough to have pretty high metabolism so I can eat a lot of junk food for long periods of time and never really get fat. When I drank I would sometimes start to put on a few extra pounds whenever I would get carried away with my drinking, but I would back off and start watching my intake and exercising.(cutting out cokes and fast food junk food etc) Weight is something to me that can be helped in my mind. All you have to do is watch what you eat, and ****ing exercise if your not happy with how you look weight wise. Stop griping about it or talking about it, and just do it already. Losing weight is rather easy ive found, and exercise becomes something you will enjoy after you get into the routine. Eating healthy starts to taste just as good after you realize how in tune you are with your body and how much better you feel eating healthy. Its fun to eat junk food and drink cokes but if your doing it to the point that your causing yourself health issues or becoming reliant on the goverment to take care of you. Then you might want to reconsider you diet and make some necessary changes to better yourself. I realize this may be easier said then done but maybe some ultimatims should be given for a little motivation. I mean I struggled with drinking for years now but just put it down cold turkey a month ago this friday and cigerettes as well a week later. To me they go hand in hand anyway. Im not on a patch or going to any A.A. meetings at the moment but it was something I felt it was time for me to do so im doing it. Its that simple and theres no reason that over indulgence of food shouldnt be that simple as well. Food to me is like anything else..if you want to stop eating so much then you will. This isnt rocket science

captaincaptain · 06-02-2011, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

I watched the movie/documentary" super size" me the other day on youtube and its scary some of the numbers and statistics that were shown. This guy eats McDonalds 3 times a day for 30 days to see what would happen health wise. Yes its a lil extreme but for some its not to far of a stretch from their daily routine. Its free to watch on youtube, and you dont have to download it or anything. Id recommend watching just to see all the problems this guy starts having health wise. Its crazy, and I never really gave it much thought till I watched this the other day. Im lucky enough to have pretty high metabolism so I can eat a lot of junk food for long periods of time and never really get fat. When I drank I would sometimes start to put on a few extra pounds whenever I would get carried away with my drinking, but I would back off and start watching my intake and exercising.(cutting out cokes and fast food junk food etc) Weight is something to me that can be helped in my mind. All you have to do is watch what you eat, and ****ing exercise if your not happy with how you look weight wise. Stop griping about it or talking about it, and just do it already. Losing weight is rather easy ive found, and exercise becomes something you will enjoy after you get into the routine. Eating healthy starts to taste just as good after you realize how in tune you are with your body and how much better you feel eating healthy. Its fun to eat junk food and drink cokes but if your doing it to the point that your causing yourself health issues or becoming reliant on the goverment to take care of you. Then you might want to reconsider you diet and make some necessary changes to better yourself. I realize this may be easier said then done but maybe some ultimatims should be given for a little motivation. I mean I struggled with drinking for years now but just put it down cold turkey a month ago this friday and cigerettes as well a week later. To me they go hand in hand anyway. Im not on a patch or going to any A.A. meetings at the moment but it was something I felt it was time for me to do so im doing it. Its that simple and theres no reason that over indulgence of food shouldnt be that simple as well. Food to me is like anything else..if you want to stop eating so much then you will. This isnt rocket science

There's another documentary called, Fat Head (haven't seen it yet), that refutes some of the information in Super Size Me.

Having a high metabolism doesn't necessarily make you healthy and that's my problem with obese people. It's not just their eating habit, but their need for inactivity. A healthy person needs to be doing a minimum of 30 minutes of cardiovascular activity a week. I'm not saying you (not specifically you, but everyone), need run marathons (I'll do that for you), but jump on a bike or a treadmill and don't stop til that episode of 2 1/2 Men is over.

If we start penalizing the fatties, where will it end? How about people who tan? A line has to be drawn at some point and I'm not comfortable with politicians telling me what to do.

~~The Virgin~~ · 06-02-2011, 05:47 AM

i don't mind fat people. they're actually quite nice to look at.

Bloozcrooz · 06-02-2011, 06:01 AM

Thats also true that im not comfortable with the government having that much control either. If its to the extreme though that people are needing help from the government cause they cant seem to pass up the KFC and get in a little excercise. Then there should be some kind of process they should have to go through upon qualifying for help. Like maybe some health classes, and things like that..or maybe a shock collar that goes off whenever they start to drool at the thought of french fries and double meat cheesburgers..JK. Seriously though something could be set in place to help get them on the right track, and help them regain control over their life. If they refuse then they could seek help somewhere other than the government. If they're not wanting government help then honestly I dont care what they look like or want to eat. Be fat all you want to be fat if thats what makes ya happy, but dont do it to the extent that your a burden on the tax payers. Or get mad whenever someone makes fat jokes and start to cry about something you can easily fix yourself. It doesnt take smarts or talent or cost any money to be self motivated to lose weight so spare me the excuses.

captaincaptain · 06-02-2011, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

Thats also true that im not comfortable with the government having that much control either. If its to the extreme though that people are needing help from the government cause they cant seem to pass up the KFC and get in a little excercise. Then there should be some kind of process they should have to go through upon qualifying for help. Like maybe some health classes, and things like that..or maybe a shock collar that goes off whenever they start to drool at the thought of french fries and double meat cheesburgers..JK. Seriously though something could be set in place to help get them on the right track, and help them regain control over their life. If they refuse then they could seek help somewhere other than the government. If they're not wanting government help then honestly I dont care what they look like or want to eat. Be fat all you want to be fat if thats what makes ya happy, but dont do it to the extent that your a burden on the tax payers. Or get mad whenever someone makes fat jokes and start to cry about something you can easily fix yourself.

I eat as healthy as possible, work out 7 days a week, and I'm at a healthy weight. Eating without concern and not working out will catch up sooner or later. I always ask people, how many 300 lbs, 80 year olds. do you see walking around? Not many. I'm not too sure there's an afterlife, so I have to live this life as healthy and fulfilling as possible. None of my grandparents lived beyond 65 and I'm determined to live 30 years beyond that.

On another note...I find it sad that we have people that die in this country (and others), because they eat too much, while there are people that die in our countries of starvation.

djchameleon · 06-02-2011, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

Thats also true that im not comfortable with the government having that much control either. If its to the extreme though that people are needing help from the government cause they cant seem to pass up the KFC and get in a little excercise. Then there should be some kind of process they should have to go through upon qualifying for help. Like maybe some health classes, and things like that..or maybe a shock collar that goes off whenever they start to drool at the thought of french fries and double meat cheesburgers..JK. Seriously though something could be set in place to help get them on the right track, and help them regain control over their life. If they refuse then they could seek help somewhere other than the government. If they're not wanting government help then honestly I dont care what they look like or want to eat. Be fat all you want to be fat if thats what makes ya happy, but dont do it to the extent that your a burden on the tax payers. Or get mad whenever someone makes fat jokes and start to cry about something you can easily fix yourself. It doesnt take smarts or talent or cost any money to be self motivated to lose weight so spare me the excuses.

wow some of you have it so far off base it's not even funny.

People with disabilities that are trying to get their claims pushed through have to jump through so many hoops that it takes forever for them to get it. It's not something that is taken lightly and just handed out to any and everyone. My old roommate had this problem with his back that prevented him from working but it was an odd rare case that hasn't been documented before so they kept sending him to different doctors for different opinions. The case that he had took about 3 years before he could get disability.

I highly doubt they are just giving away disability to obese people because they lack self control to stop from eating fast food. If in some rare case that someone gets disability for being obese you bet it will be because of some medical condition associated with it for example a thyroid problem/condition or something similar.

Bloozcrooz · 06-02-2011, 07:01 AM

If they're eatng problems caused them to have medical problems then thats a fault of theirs that could have been prevented with a little self awareness. No different than if my liver failed from years of alcohol intake when I drank or lung cancer from when I smoked. At some point we as Americans should take some accountability for our own actions instead of always thinking the government and tax payers or anyone but ourselves owes it to us to bail us out of every single thing.

Of course someone with a legitimate disability should be granted help but that wasnt the topic at hand here.

djchameleon · 06-02-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

If they're eatng problems caused them to have medical problems then thats a fault of theirs that could have been prevented with a little self awareness. No different than if my liver failed from years of alcohol intake when I drank or lung cancer from when I smoked. At some point we as Americans should take some accountability for our own actions instead of always thinking the government and tax payers or anyone but ourselves owes it to us to bail us out of every single thing.

Of course someone with a legitimate disability should be granted help but that wasnt the topic at hand here.

that's not the medical problems/conditions I'm referring to.

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The thyroid is a large endocrine gland found in the neck within the human body. It regulates the speed at which energy is burned and protein is made, as well as the sensitivity the body should have toward other hormones. When thyroid problems affect an individual, different diseases can be present.

this is the type of condition that isn't brought on by eating unhealthy

The ones you are talking about is like people getting type 2 diabetes and things of that nature.

You can't get disability for having type 2 diabetes which is brought on because you have gained too much weight that your body can't handle.

Howard the Duck · 06-02-2011, 07:26 AM

well, there is cheap healthcare if you are diseased

no free income if you're over-obese and lack exercide and eat too much

i've seen a lot of over-obese people here and they get along just fine

06-02-2011, 04:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
~~The Virgin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cebu, Philippines Posts: 677	i'm seeing a lot of hate here towards fat people. oprah was once obese, right? and she was never a burden to America, economically speaking.

06-02-2011, 05:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
~~The Virgin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cebu, Philippines Posts: 677	i don't mind fat people. they're actually quite nice to look at.