Fat People - A Burden On The State?

Paedantic Basterd · 06-02-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurora

I don't hate them. I dislike their lifestyle.

I dislike the lifestyle of just about everyone who posts on this forum, but you would never see me making the kinds of comments posted in here.

FETCHER. · 06-02-2011, 01:09 PM

I can relate to what you're saying. Maybe we should open up a thread that makes that relevant to the topic?

Sparky · 06-02-2011, 01:10 PM

Pretty soon in American fat people will be in the majority so I don't think it will be socially acceptable to typecast/poke fun at them for too much longer.

I say just make everything like "Wall E" and instead of fighting it, lets embrace this new lifestyle with open arms and hover chairs that bring us everywhere

captaincaptain · 06-02-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Right, yet we're considerably more accepting of alcoholism than obesity, and the difference is even more dramatic on this website, where we've a number of current and recovering addicts.

I'm not calling anybody out at all or trying to cast them in a negative light, I'm merely stressing the double standard I've seen presented in this thread. How is it only okay to hate fat people? How is it okay to hate them at all?

It's not ok to hate fat people, I sympathize with them. It doesn't mean, I can't criticize what some of them are doing to themselves. I don't like when people let their addictions become a burden on society. Whether it's obesity, drug addiction, teenage pregnancy, alcoholism, or just all around laziness. If we want to start a thread on people I hate, start one on drunk drivers. I absolutely loathe them.

Bloozcrooz · 06-02-2011, 01:16 PM

Lmao...I didnt see anyone use the word hate when describing fat people. I for one dont hate them I just dont want to pay for them to get fatter if they arent willing to help themselves.(of a thyroid prob is different) And as someone who struggles with addiction (alcohol) I feel I can say that. I dont care if someone has ill feelin towards alcoholics cuz alcohol screws up millions of lives every year. Its not acceptable and I woudnt think I was entitled to disability if I chose to keep drinking but stayed to drunk to work. So I went to the welfare line to get my hand out and buy more alcohol? Wtf kind of sense does that make? None and theres not much diifference between that scenerio and obesity. Sometimes maybe people need to hear it the way it is instead of worrying about their feelings. Maybe it will send a message that they need to get their life under control before they are unable to. Society is way to worried about offending people now days.

Just for the record again....once i realized what it was going to cost me in the long run..(alcohol) I QUIT DRINKING AND SMOKING CIGARETTES!!! So fats can stop eating as well

FETCHER. · 06-02-2011, 01:17 PM

Thank you.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-02-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin

Just for the record again....once i realized what it was going to cost me in the long run..(alcohol) I QUIT DRINKING AND SMOKING CIGARETTES!!! So fats can stop eating as well

Well no they can't actually.

See the thing about drugs & alcohol is that you don't need them to survive.
Food is a different matter altogether, you need it to live.

How long do you think you would last as a recovering alcoholic if you had to face having one or two alcoholic drinks a day?

I'm willing to bet you wouldn't last long.

captaincaptain · 06-02-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Well no they can't actually.

See the thing about drugs & alcohol is that you don't need them to survive.
Food is a different matter altogether, you need it to live.

How long do you think you would last as a recovering alcoholic if you had to face having one or two alcoholic drinks a day?

I'm willing to bet you wouldn't last long.

Is it okay to overindulge because eating is a necessity? Water is a necessity, but if you drink too much you die of hyper hydration.

Bloozcrooz · 06-02-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Well no they can't actually.

See the thing about drugs & alcohol is that you don't need them to survive.
Food is a different matter altogether, you need it to live.

How long do you think you would last as a recovering alcoholic if you had to face having one or two alcoholic drinks a day?

I'm willing to bet you wouldn't last long.

The temptation is still there though, and the twisted sick rationalizations to drink are there as well for drunks. I dont know if I buy into the whole alcoholism is a disease theory or not, but it definately alters any sane logic or train of thought. You will always be around alcohol cause its lega,l and adverstised and marketed probally as much as any food if not more so. I may not physically be dependent on it, but there are some that are. I made the choice to stop before it got to that point. I dont know for certain, but I venture to say that addiction is equally as hard what ever the drug of choice may be. Food, and alcohol being included as what defines drug in this case. No alcoholic would make it continuing to drink a couple of drinks every day, but I wouldnt go as far to say that the temptation for some was any less signifficant than for people who struggle with weight problems.
Of course you cant just stop eating true enough but you can choose to eat different types of food can you not? You can acheive some amount of self control in the amounts of what you eat. Again I think in both cases its a matter of motivation, and want to. Albeit for those that have a prexisting medical problem such as a thyroid problem obviously there are elements out of your control. But to the ones that insist on stuffing their face and over indulging to the point of glutttony is a lack of self control imo. Then to want the government to pay for it is repulsive to me.At the end of the day if your over weight, and happy, and not asking for a hand out from the government then more power to ya. I could care less what you look like or eat or do etc etc.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-02-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

Is it okay to overindulge because eating is a necessity? Water is a necessity, but if you drink too much you die of hyper hydration.

I think you've totally missed the point I was making there.

06-02-2011, 01:10 PM	#43 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	Pretty soon in American fat people will be in the majority so I don't think it will be socially acceptable to typecast/poke fun at them for too much longer. I say just make everything like "Wall E" and instead of fighting it, lets embrace this new lifestyle with open arms and hover chairs that bring us everywhere