Fat People - A Burden On The State?

Paedantic Basterd · 06-02-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

Is it okay to overindulge because eating is a necessity? Water is a necessity, but if you drink too much you die of hyper hydration.

I think you're forgetting the addiction component.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 06-02-2011, 02:47 PM

I just get pissed off when obviously overweight people get foodstamps.

Bloozcrooz · 06-02-2011, 03:25 PM

I cant beleive Urban actually spoke to me...I feel like im officially a member of MB now.

Mr November · 06-02-2011, 09:05 PM

Fat people probably are a burden on the state depending on what the state refers to (more specifically where you live). On the other hand so are smokers, gamblers, people who don't use contraception, people who drive SUVs, people who evade taxes, people who steal, people who use poison on their lawns... etc etc etc.

At least fat people are always there to make you laugh...

NSW · 06-02-2011, 09:21 PM

Wow. As a fatty who takes care of herself and doesn't get any state benefits, I have to say I'm appalled by the attitude of most of the people posting in this thread.

I had a long drawn out post to make, but Urban and Pedestrian pretty much summed everything up nicely.

How disappointing. :/

Stephen · 06-02-2011, 09:43 PM

It's really a pretty murky issue all round. I don't just mean obesity but addictive/ self-destructive behaviour in general, be it crack, smack, booze, burgers, bongs or whatever you choose to self-destruct. I am kind of uncomfortable with the term addiction because in medicalising an issue it really absolves the destructee of any personal responsibility. Ultimately people choose their poison and you do get to a point where the body expects more of whatever you have been giving it but I also believe that you can't expect someone else to stop you from self-destructing or to support you in doing it.

Paedantic Basterd · 06-02-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife

How disappointing. :/

Let's be SIFs together NSW.

NSW · 06-02-2011, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Let's be SIFs together NSW.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-02-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

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Now in regards to people on benefits, I am only talking about obese people here, not genuinely sick people, those made redundant, etc etc.

I just wanted to show Urban, Pedestrian and NSW that I was excluding those with genuine health issues like thyroid problems and so on. I also have nothing against these people, in fact I wish it was easier for them.

I did want to raise a healthy debate and I knew it could get tense. As a person who has suffered from depression and has both nearly stopped eating and overeaten in different times I can see what a complex situation it can be for bigger people. However there is a point where you have to see that your over eating, never getting out is going to kill you and be a burden to others and your family if you don't make a change.

Paedantic Basterd · 06-02-2011, 11:07 PM

I'm not genuinely sick, but I'm far enough from resembling a rail that much of the hate speech in this thread can apply to me, and I imagine it's much the same for NSW.

I'm very disappointed.

06-02-2011, 09:21 PM	#55 (permalink)
NSW Bigger and Better Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas girl living in the UK Posts: 2,596	Wow. As a fatty who takes care of herself and doesn't get any state benefits, I have to say I'm appalled by the attitude of most of the people posting in this thread. I had a long drawn out post to make, but Urban and Pedestrian pretty much summed everything up nicely. How disappointing. :/ __________________ Hi.

06-02-2011, 09:05 PM	#54 (permalink)
Mr November Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 429	Fat people probably are a burden on the state depending on what the state refers to (more specifically where you live). On the other hand so are smokers, gamblers, people who don't use contraception, people who drive SUVs, people who evade taxes, people who steal, people who use poison on their lawns... etc etc etc. At least fat people are always there to make you laugh...

06-02-2011, 09:43 PM	#56 (permalink)
Stephen I sleep in your hat Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Melbourne, Vic. Aus. Posts: 1,846	It's really a pretty murky issue all round. I don't just mean obesity but addictive/ self-destructive behaviour in general, be it crack, smack, booze, burgers, bongs or whatever you choose to self-destruct. I am kind of uncomfortable with the term addiction because in medicalising an issue it really absolves the destructee of any personal responsibility. Ultimately people choose their poison and you do get to a point where the body expects more of whatever you have been giving it but I also believe that you can't expect someone else to stop you from self-destructing or to support you in doing it.

06-02-2011, 11:07 PM	#60 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	I'm not genuinely sick, but I'm far enough from resembling a rail that much of the hate speech in this thread can apply to me, and I imagine it's much the same for NSW. I'm very disappointed.