Do atheists believe that Jesus existed?

The Monkey · 08-08-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I can't prove he doesn't exist but you can prove he doesn't have DNA?

God only existed in human form when he was Jesus. It's not like "the Father" ever took the form of mortal flesh. The same goes for the Holy Spirit.

If you read the Bible you see it was actually the Holy Spirit, not the Father, who impregnated Mary, so I don't really see how those two are different. Maybe someone more well-versed in these matters could clarify?

SIRIUSB · 08-08-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

God only existed in human form when he was Jesus. It's not like "the Father" ever took the form of mortal flesh. The same goes for the Holy Spirit.

If you read the Bible you see it was actually the Holy Spirit, not the Father, who impregnated Mary, so I don't really see how those two are different. Maybe someone more well-versed in these matters could clarify?

Sure . . . someone besides Joseph impregnated Mary (Roman soldier?) she gave birth to Yeshua, Yeshua (Jesus) starts his own religious sect separate and in opposition in may ways from the existing Jewish sects and hundreds of years later people marry together older God/Man myths to create scriptures intending to homogenize this Belief System.

Howard the Duck · 08-08-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

God only existed in human form when he was Jesus. It's not like "the Father" ever took the form of mortal flesh. The same goes for the Holy Spirit.

If you read the Bible you see it was actually the Holy Spirit, not the Father, who impregnated Mary, so I don't really see how those two are different. Maybe someone more well-versed in these matters could clarify?

the Christian God is a Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost

ProggyMan · 08-10-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

If there really was a magical Jesus did he have special god-DNA or did all his DNA come from Mary? That's what I would like to know.

Also was Jesus physically capable of impregnating a woman? If he did, would his children be 1/4 god?

Haven't you seen The Phantom Menace?

**Janszoon** · 08-10-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Haven't you seen The Phantom Menace?

So god is midi-chlorians?

Guybrush · 08-09-2011, 09:34 PM

If Jesus didn't get DNA from anyone but his mother Mary, he would've been a lady as she would have no Y chromosomes to pass on, only Xs. Also, he might have been haploid then.

**Janszoon** · 08-09-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

If Jesus didn't get DNA from anyone but his mother Mary, he would've been a lady as she would have no Y chromosomes to pass on, only Xs. Also, he might have been haploid then.

Ah, good point! So we have to assume either half his DNA came right from god's DNA or else god conjured up DNA out of thin air to combine with Mary's DNA.

Burning Down · 08-09-2011, 11:10 PM

This thread got a little more scientific than I expected!

Howard the Duck · 08-09-2011, 11:35 PM

if it is really true that Jesus had God DNA, then finding an old strand of his hair will let us discover..... the God particle

SATCHMO · 10-22-2011, 01:48 AM

I believe Jesus existed. I don't believe all the claptrap about his virgin birth and him subsequently being "god's only begotten son", or his death being an atonement for the "sins" of the world, however I do believe that he performed spontaneous healings, reappeared-- not resurrected-- after death and that he was one of the few well known ascended masters of the world, who managed to escape the dream of the ego and the birth/death cycle.

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SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,847	I believe Jesus existed. I don't believe all the claptrap about his virgin birth and him subsequently being "god's only begotten son", or his death being an atonement for the "sins" of the world, however I do believe that he performed spontaneous healings, reappeared-- not resurrected-- after death and that he was one of the few well known ascended masters of the world, who managed to escape the dream of the ego and the birth/death cycle.