Originally Posted by djchameleon

you are right! some other countries treat their prisoners way worse than the treatment that American prisoners get except for Norway because they are the perfect country and never do anything wrong.

Originally Posted by djchameleon

you are right! some other countries treat their prisoners way worse than the treatment that American prisoners get except for Norway because they are the perfect country and never do anything wrong.

Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

Dude you are hopeless and extremely closed minded to think that way. Not only are you writing off humans as being disposable and useless and giving your consent to being abused beaten and tortured. You also think that whipping animals is the proper course of action to take to get them to do what you want? Personaly I wouldnt want someone like YOU to be around my loved ones.

Originally Posted by Paloma

Lol really? I didn't know it was your place to make judgments on that sort of thing, especially when you have no experience in such matters and apparently no sort of empathy. Do you know they jail homosexuals in some parts of the world? What about them?

Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

Picture this "The Virgin" gets drunk one night during an evening of hardcore dancing to Beyonce and gets arrested for P.I.. Thrown in the local county jail with an inmate who's in transition to somewhere else in the jail (because not all jails segragate by degree of offense..especially when they are overcrowded) or another jail or just awaiting trial. Only he's been getting beaten by gaurds on a daily basis and is looking to channel some of that anger out onto someone else. He comes from a broken home and was raised in poverty up until he was a lil older. Started making money the only way he really knew how, because he wasnt given all the oppurtunities at a education that most are but he wants to try an provide for his GF and child (that he is missing..cause just cause someone is locked up doesnt mean they are emotionless).
He also happens to be about 6'4 and 220 pounds of muscle cause all he's been doing for the last year is eating and doing as many pushups and crunches and squats that he possibly can to block out the regret he has for the mistake he made, the pain of being beaten every day, avoiding gang rape in the shower, getting shanked, and wondering and worring about his family every day, along with a million other daily stresses that you have in jail or prison. He had never been in trouble in the past for any kind of violent crime or had a mean bone in his body. Till he was encarcerated and beaten daily for days,months,years.

Now...do you have the same outlook all alone in a cell with this guy as you do typing your tough guy attitude on an internet forum about his situation? Or would you rather that maybe different measures had been taken to rehabilitate this man who was'nt an angry out for blood convict until he went to jail/prison.

Originally Posted by FaSho

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Originally Posted by richie1

The Virgin - I think it is really sad if you truly feel this way. It reminds me of the parent that beats their child for misbehaving instead of correcting them and nurturing them towards the correct behavior. Based on your quote, the prisoner would only leave prison angrier and more violent than when they went in. With this mentality, it's no suprise that the percentage of prisoners that go back to prison is so high.

Originally Posted by Il Duce

- Hendrix didn't even play the blues that well -

Originally Posted by tore

Hehe

In all seriousness, I hate to be that brag and I realize I've been doing it more than one should if you don't want people to start think you're a bit douchey about it. A reason why I've been mentioning here vs. there is that I often feel people in America for example are not aware that things can and are being done differently in other countries. Generally speaking, In the world of culture, media and communication, the US is the giver and we're the reciever (we're a tiny country) so most US citizens may not be aware that prisons where inmates are not being punished so much as rehabilitated actually exist. To show that alternatives not only exist but that they also work is a highly valid argument, but I realize it would reflect better on me if I started using examples from other countries than my own.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

IMO I don't know jack-**** though so don't listen to me.

Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

The problem is that most police officers in America are psychopaths.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

You're a terrible dictionary.

Originally Posted by Paloma

Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

Thanks man its good to be appreciated! This is where you would want me to try an explain to you the hypothetical scenerio that was mentioned above in detail but I know you understand it already and are just fishin for a rise. You do have your scheme down cold with the way you bait people into meaningless debates until they become utterly disgusted with, you ill give you that. It has been good for occasional laughs here and there.

Fact is man, not every person in prison is rotten to the core and I was just trying to get you to realize that. Not every criminal is a rapist,murderer,child molester,ect...etc. While prisons not intended to be a fun place it should'nt be a place where people in positions of authority inflict their abusive wrath just simply because they can.

Originally Posted by The Virgin

what does he have to do with the topic?



arguing with you is pointless because you don't listen to opinions on reasons thrown at you.
but let me correct your last point, positions of authority to do not discipline inmates just because they're abusive or power tripper, they're disciplining them because they deserve it. get it?

Originally Posted by Il Duce

- Hendrix didn't even play the blues that well -

Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

No. But whatever you say man, I hope you land yourself behind bars somehow.

Originally Posted by The Virgin

that's impossible. i'm a law-abiding citizen and would take probably a million reincarnations of myself before I become a law offender.