Transgender in Disney

Howard the Duck · 02-03-2012, 08:52 AM

transgenderism is highly frowned upon in my neck of the woods

they believe a sex change is only appropriate if there were some genital defect

hip hop bunny hop · 02-03-2012, 11:06 AM

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Common decency?

That's a culturally relative concept, and trying to impose it globally would be nothing short of a form of liberal cultural imperialism.

Pedestrian's post seemed to be buttressed by two concepts, (1) tabula rasa, and (2) the notion that society (or civilization, in the European sense) corrupts...

~~Rubato~~ · 02-03-2012, 11:33 AM

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Do you've any proof that the "innate" tendency is to be accepting of this behavior?

Lack of acceptance is seen as a possible defect.

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The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

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Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice, Hodson said, so studying intelligence seemed a logical next step. The researchers turned to two studies of citizens in the United Kingdom, one that has followed babies since their births in March 1958, and another that did the same for babies born in April 1970. The children in the studies had their intelligence assessed at age 10 or 11; as adults ages 30 or 33, their levels of social conservatism and racism were measured.

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Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group's point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice | Racism, Bias & Politics | Right-Wing and Left-Wing Ideology | LiveScience

~~Tapeworm~~ · 02-04-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

transgenderism is highly frowned upon in my neck of the woods

they believe a sex change is only appropriate if there were some genital defect

What kind of logic is that?

Like, yeah, if somebody wants to be another sex they just have to accept the genitals they're born with, but if their pecker didn't come out right then it's ok to turn it into a vagina?

Social conservatism is the lulz.

hip hop bunny hop · 02-04-2012, 01:05 PM

Oh noes, Rubato has called in a roflcopter attack!

Aaaaaa! I must defend myself... quick, google image search!

Perhaps if I search for a graph breaking down attitudes on Prop 8 by race:

Aaaa! Oh noes, blacks in California overwhelmingly opposed gay marriage! Does this mean Black Americans are stupid, bigoted, conservatives?

~~Rubato~~ · 02-04-2012, 01:38 PM

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not really.

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Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.

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The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

"My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

It was more a playful ad hominem than anything.

hip hop bunny hop · 02-04-2012, 02:13 PM

Yeah, I figured. My original reply was a convoluted mess of graphs breaking down PISA reading scores, IQ results, party affiliation, by race.... an over enthusiastic response to a liberal admitting IQ testing is valid, if you will.

Then I realized I wasn't speaking to the Batlord, and I had to delete most of my graphs. It was like shooting a mortally wounded hunting dog.

Paedantic Basterd · 02-04-2012, 03:16 PM

I'd like to see the source for the graph you did leave. For all we can see, it's asking what different ethnicities think of cheerios or something.

hip hop bunny hop · 02-05-2012, 02:36 PM

No problem Pedestrian; LINK.

The Batlord · 02-06-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Yeah, I figured. My original reply was a convoluted mess of graphs breaking down PISA reading scores, IQ results, party affiliation, by race.... an over enthusiastic response to a liberal admitting IQ testing is valid, if you will.

Then I realized I wasn't speaking to the Batlord, and I had to delete most of my graphs. It was like shooting a mortally wounded hunting dog.

I stopped taking you seriously a while ago, dude. I don't watch enough Fox News to be able to care about what you say. If we're talking about music, then it's all good. If we're talking politics, then you aren't worth talking to.

02-04-2012, 01:05 PM	#95 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	Oh noes, Rubato has called in a roflcopter attack! Aaaaaa! I must defend myself... quick, google image search! Perhaps if I search for a graph breaking down attitudes on Prop 8 by race: Aaaa! Oh noes, blacks in California overwhelmingly opposed gay marriage! Does this mean Black Americans are stupid, bigoted, conservatives? __________________ Have mercy on the poor.

02-04-2012, 02:13 PM	#97 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	Yeah, I figured. My original reply was a convoluted mess of graphs breaking down PISA reading scores, IQ results, party affiliation, by race.... an over enthusiastic response to a liberal admitting IQ testing is valid, if you will. Then I realized I wasn't speaking to the Batlord, and I had to delete most of my graphs. It was like shooting a mortally wounded hunting dog. __________________ Have mercy on the poor.

02-05-2012, 02:36 PM	#99 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	No problem Pedestrian; LINK. __________________ Have mercy on the poor.

02-04-2012, 03:16 PM	#98 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	I'd like to see the source for the graph you did leave. For all we can see, it's asking what different ethnicities think of cheerios or something.