Eh? Really, every time it's been invoked it's been over an issue that wasn't within their rights? While I recognize you're being hyperbolic, an easy example is the portion of the Civil Rights Act of '64 which changed the interpretation of the Bill of Rights from governing the relationship between The Government & The Governed to relationships between the Governed. The most obvious example being forcing private businesses to desegregate.



Well, the relevant section of the 14th amendment is:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Maintaining marriage is between two people of different sexes =/= not denying homosexuals life, liberty or property. Homosexuals can still marry and recieve all the benefits therein, they just can't marry people of the same sex. So what this is about, then, is the definition of marriage.

What i mean to say is "nullification" was never something allowed by the 10th Amendment. Also, what is that an example of.

As for your position on marriage equality, my question back to you is "why can't they marry people of the same sex?" Marriage isn't specified in the Constitution, and the 14th Amendment is the trumping law given American Laws hierarchy. So states banning gay marriage are illegal by virtue of the U.S. Constitution.

I don't know exactly why there isn't specifically anything about gay marriage in it.

So then you agree with me. Given the wording, and the absence of exception, Gay Marriage is currently, under the Constitution, legal.

I guess people who oppose gay marriage interpret it in their favor.

My guess is he's holding out for an Al Gore / Hillary Clinton ticket.

yeah but as I said to HHB, thats like people saying Slavery should be legal despite the large pool of founding documents that say it isn't.

Well if Obama doesn't get reelected.....can we have him?

Yes. Although if Gingrich ends up being the GOP nominee, we will have to keep him 4 more years.

Perfect. I'll just get a screenshot of that, to make it all official like.