American Presidency Campaign

TheBig3 · 01-23-2012, 10:06 AM

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I live in a very poor region of the country, so I can personally say that a lot of the people who are unemployed aren't just getting benefits to suck on the government's teat.

The early years of my life were extremely rough, and I grew up in a household that was living paycheck to paycheck - literally. Occasionally, my parents would even have to sell their belongings just to make sure we had enough money to get clothing and living essentials (rent, electric & water, toilet paper / soap / etc., car insurance & gas) and it wasn't until I was 10 and my dad went back to the military that I knew what it was like to have some extra things for entertainment.

My parents, though, were constantly working. They got the best jobs they could get with high school diplomas, and it still wasn't quite enough to raise (at the time) two small children.

When my parents were my age, they had a child already in school (me).

If you don't think that there are reasonable circumstances for people to require government assistance, in spite of their efforts, come to eastern KY and see what's up.

The rest of the country has only felt this economic issue for a few decades at most; Appalachia has never really recovered from the Great Depression.

And this is probably the majority of people who are on government assistance. Its called the working poor. Its the biggest tragedy a 1st world government can allow. Its essentially systemic apathy allowing starvation. When Kennedy campaigned in WV in 1960 he talked about children taking their school lunch home to feed the family.

We've got more food and land to grow food on in this country than you could imagine. Yet we use it so poorly that you'd never know it. Its a god damn shame and I wish anyone would talk about it for a change.

The Monkey · 01-23-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I don't think Obama is nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be. Most of what he's failed at has been largely due to Congress, and what Congress hasn't been involved in he's been very successful (mostly foreign policy).

That's hardly an excuse. The Democrats had majority in both Houses the first two years of his presidency, and he still didn't close Gitmo, nor revert Bush's enormous tax cuts for the rich. He needs to grow some ****ing balls and actually do the things he promised he would.

TheBig3 · 01-23-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

That's hardly an excuse. The Democrats had majority in both Houses the first two years of his presidency, and he still didn't close Gitmo, nor revert Bush's enormous tax cuts for the rich. He needs to grow some ****ing balls and actually do the things he promised he would.

Well the tax cuts would have expired if the republicans didn't hold hostage the unemployment funding.

As for Gitmo, where do you propose he move those prisoners to? I'm less concerned about Gitmo when we have an administration who knows what torture means.

Also, my apologies for the aggressive nature of my next sentence. I don't know what Republican, THAT CAN GET ELECTED, is going to close Gitmo or maintain the same position on "enhanced interrogation." I can't even imagine the logic behind hating a President who'd done 85% of what he said he would do despite massive blockades, because 1 thing, which had logistical complications.

If you are mad at Obama because he didn't commit to 100% of what he wanted to do, vote for ****ing Santa Clause in 2012 because no one else is going to give you what you want. Its the most illogical, infantile rebuke of a politician you could make, and it highlights a wildly naive understanding of how the American political system works. If you consider yourself a man of the left, you ought to be ashamed to have come out on that position.

Franco Pepe Kalle · 01-23-2012, 05:03 PM

I will never trust a Republican as president.

blastingas10 · 01-23-2012, 06:41 PM

After New Hampshire and Iowa, it was looking like Paul was the only one who could challange Romney. But now Gingrich has won South Carolina and is polling in first in Florida. Paul s currently in last in the Flordia polls. It saddnes me to say that it looks like Mr. Paul is done for.

**Frownland** · 01-23-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

That's hardly an excuse. The Democrats had majority in both Houses the first two years of his presidency, and he still didn't close Gitmo, nor revert Bush's enormous tax cuts for the rich. He needs to grow some ****ing balls and actually do the things he promised he would.

Look up the legitimate powers of the president, you would be surprised at how little the president can really do in terms of legislation.

LoathsomePete · 01-23-2012, 08:00 PM

Santorum To Rape Victims: 'Make The Best Out Of A Bad Situation' | ThinkProgress

Fuck everything about this man.

~~Farfisa~~ · 01-23-2012, 08:28 PM

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Santorum To Rape Victims: 'Make The Best Out Of A Bad Situation' | ThinkProgress

Fuck everything about this man.

I feel like if a child was born out of rape, the parent whom was raped wouldn't be able to care for the child due to extreme emotional (and maybe physical) trauma (one of the many arguments). It seems awful selfish to sacrifice innocent people all in the name of your stubborn beliefs. Abortion is one of those gray zones in politics. You can't just label abortion as either "wrong" or "right" without first looking at the circumstances, even then it's all down to morals and one's perspective.

**Janszoon** · 01-23-2012, 08:49 PM

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It saddnes me to say that it looks like Mr. Paul is done for.

It is indeed sad to see good comedy die.

**Frownland** · 01-24-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

After New Hampshire and Iowa, it was looking like Paul was the only one who could challange Romney. But now Gingrich has won South Carolina and is polling in first in Florida. Paul s currently in last in the Flordia polls. It saddnes me to say that it looks like Mr. Paul is done for.

Now where will Charlie Sheen and Gary Busey get their justified governmental representation?

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	After New Hampshire and Iowa, it was looking like Paul was the only one who could challange Romney. But now Gingrich has won South Carolina and is polling in first in Florida. Paul s currently in last in the Flordia polls. It saddnes me to say that it looks like Mr. Paul is done for.