Sansa Stark

What is wrong about that? Why do you get to dictate what's wrong and what's right? You say it's natural, but why the **** do you get to say anything about it? I will reiterate, something between two consenting adults (or four-50 if they're into that thing) is NOT MORALLY WRONG. They're not hurting anybody, except your poor lily white sensibilities.

Franco Pepe Kalle

Fine, you can stick to your view while I stick to mine.

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The problem with Franco Pepe Kalle is that he is a unpredictable character. There is surprising info about this man. You think he only likes Franco and Pepe Kalle but when you find out that he hears other artists, you are shock.

Girls are the sexy thing that God created.

Important to notice FPK.

Salami

And thanks for saying that - I can say that I know AT LEAST ONE gay person who has decided against making a personal contribution to this thread because they felt too intimidated against the response they would get.


Can I just add that reasons for this are either religious (why those makes no sense I've already explained) or "gut feeling", which really aren't even remotely acceptable grounds to impose your will upon another person.

If you give us a reason why you think there's a clear cut, moral reason why being gay is wrong, then that's fine.

But I have yet to see one of those, and neither have I been convinced in any way by your arguments: no offense, but I've seen a lot of "this is WRONG", but very little explanation as to why exactly there are plausible moral objections to homosexuality.

Sansa Stark

So you concede you're a bigot then?

Franco Pepe Kalle

NO. I am not for gay marriage. But I support Gays getting health benefits, being able to serve army openly and civil union.

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The problem with Franco Pepe Kalle is that he is a unpredictable character. There is surprising info about this man. You think he only likes Franco and Pepe Kalle but when you find out that he hears other artists, you are shock.

Girls are the sexy thing that God created.

Important to notice FPK.

Sansa Stark

So why shouldn't they be able to get married?

Sansa Stark

America doesn't give a **** about your "personal belief". What is so bad about loving the same sex? How about if you love someone who is trans?

someonecompletelyrandom

You've pretty much skirted around the actual answe we've been looking for, Franco. We know you feel homosexuality is wrong (but that you're okay with gay people) but we want to know why in your opinion do you find it wrong?

Salami

This for me is our real problem. We've yet to see any clear moral reason for it being wrong. And it seems to me that this is unreasonable to oppose gay marriage from just a personal conviction that it's wrong.

someonecompletelyrandom

I think its definitely possible to argue against or show dissaproval of a person's position without resorting to insulting them personally. We've noticed some personal attacks in here and I personally can observe that they were unnessecery to get the point across.