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bob. · 07-23-2012, 02:26 PM

really....i mean there was certainly an odd and rather vicious crime there recently....but for the most part Florida comes in the news due to weather....

duga · 07-23-2012, 02:29 PM

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Singapore is a very ordered society and quite wealthy, I'm guessing your point is an economically sound society is nearly always going to have far lower rates of crime.

If by ordered you mean stricter gun laws, then yes that is exactly what I mean. Nothing they do is beyond the scope of what the US could accomplish.

Unknown Soldier · 07-23-2012, 02:31 PM

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really....i mean there was certainly an odd and rather vicious crime there recently....but for the most part Florida comes in the news due to weather....

Its probably because Brits are reminded to be careful when they travel to Florida (a favourite holiday destination for many) and after the deaths of two Brits there recently, its even more highlighted now. Also we remember that Miami Vice was filmed there

**Janszoon** · 07-23-2012, 02:33 PM

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Didn't see Michigan on either list, did you forget to type it? But I know its different to the others on the list.

No, for some reason reason I thought I remembered it being on the list. Nevermind

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Surprised Florida wasn't on the high crime rate list, as that is the state we most get to hear about here for crimes.

Well, the reason you probably hear about it so much is that it's a such a tourist destination. There's a higher chance of people from the UK being killed there than in states they're less likely to visit.

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If by ordered you mean stricter gun laws, then yes that is exactly what I mean. Nothing they do is beyond the scope of what the US could accomplish.

Up until recently Chicago had really strict gun laws though and still had high crime. I'd imagine the fact that Singapore is separated from their neighbors by water probably helps them have more control over what comes into the country than a city like Chicago could.

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really....i mean there was certainly an odd and rather vicious crime there recently....but for the most part Florida comes in the news due to weather....

All Florida crime seems to be odd and vicious for some reason. I always remember being perpetually shocked by the evening news when I lived there.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-23-2012, 02:39 PM

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really....i mean there was certainly an odd and rather vicious crime there recently....but for the most part Florida comes in the news due to weather....

And people eating your face off

Unknown Soldier · 07-23-2012, 02:40 PM

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If by ordered you mean stricter gun laws, then yes that is exactly what I mean. Nothing they do is beyond the scope of what the US could accomplish.

Americans are like Brits and are not overly ordered and don't like being told what to do, unless they're asked nicely. If you want an ordered western society then look at Germany.

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No, for some reason reason I thought I remembered it being on the list. Nevermind

You should stop listening to Nirvana all day long.

duga · 07-23-2012, 02:44 PM

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Up until recently Chicago had really strict gun laws though and still had high crime. I'd imagine the fact that Singapore is separated from their neighbors by water probably helps them have more control over what comes into the country than a city like Chicago could.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...ted_death_rate

Ok, how about a country that isn't surrounded by water? Chile also had incredibly low gun related deaths. I'm sure the reason Chicago still had crime was because it is still surrounded by states with lax gun laws. More reason to have stricter laws on a country wide basis.

Unknown Soldier · 07-23-2012, 02:49 PM

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List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ok, how about a country that isn't surrounded by water? Chile also had incredibly low gun related deaths. I'm sure the reason Chicago still had crime was because it is still surrounded by states with lax gun laws. More reason to have stricter laws on a country wide basis.

The reason why Chile has such low crime rates, is because of decades of dictatorship and everybody was scared shitless of committing crimes. Also since the end of the dictatorship, the economy has been booming and they are a modern economic success story.

**Janszoon** · 07-23-2012, 02:49 PM

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List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ok, how about a country that isn't surrounded by water? Chile also had incredibly low gun related deaths.

Chile is surrounded by mountains... and water.

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I'm sure the reason Chicago still had crime was because it is still surrounded by states with lax gun laws. More reason to have stricter laws on a country wide basis.

Oh, I totally agree. And it's not just states near Chicago, the laws in the rest of Illinois were less strict than Chicago. Combine that with Chicago's gang problems and you have a whole bunch of people shooting each other in the city.

duga · 07-23-2012, 02:55 PM

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The reason why Chile has such low crime rates, is because of decades of dictatorship and everybody was scared shitless of committing crimes. Also since the end of the dictatorship, the economy has been booming and they are a modern economic success story.

So your point is poor countries should be allowed to all have guns? I don't get your focus on economic success. The US had a successful economy in the past and the crime rates were still there. You are not convincing me that gun laws should lighten up.

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