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Old 11-05-2012, 10:12 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Wiki and a few other lists. It shows those cities to be in the top ten PER CAPITA for murders. I don't recall saying they were the top ten largest. I didn't look up other crime data just MURDERS.
Right, but look back at the conversation. I said Philly had the worst crime rate of the ten largest cities in the country and you responded by bringing up two cities which aren't among the ten largest.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:18 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Right, but look back at the conversation. I said Philly had the worst crime rate of the ten largest cities in the country and you responded by bringing up two cities which aren't among the ten largest.
I was responding to The meh Phillys worse comment. I had no idea you said anything about top ten largest cities, as I noticed the thread at that point in the conversation. I understand Philly has twice the population of detroit and New Orleans.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:26 AM   #113 (permalink)
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I was responding to The meh Phillys worse comment. I had no idea you said anything about top ten largest cities, as I noticed the thread at that point in the conversation. I understand Philly has twice the population of detroit and New Orleans.
Okay, but the "meh, Philly's worse" comment wasn't about saying Philly is the scariest place in America (I obviously don't think that since I continue to live here), it was me pointing out that Chicago (another city that I've lived in and one which I love dearly) isn't nearly as bad as people in this thread were making it out to be.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:39 AM   #114 (permalink)
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So what do you propose, if enforcement measures were taken away from the Police in order to maintain the laws that society has made?
Of course not. There would be no point in the police if they couldn't use violence, and I imagine that society would descend into anarchy...or something.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:44 AM   #115 (permalink)
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Okay, but the "meh, Philly's worse" comment wasn't about saying Philly is the scariest place in America (I obviously don't think that since I continue to live here), it was me pointing out that Chicago (another city that I've lived in and one which I love dearly) isn't nearly as bad as people in this thread were making it out to be.
I've been to both and also New Orleans and Detroit. You will find rundown and decrepit neighborhoods throughout the U.S.. I have spent many moons in Chicago and I think its a pretty great place. I also love New Orleans, Philly and Detroit. Such amazing history and some amazing architechture in all of them.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:51 PM   #116 (permalink)
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Come to Minneapolis. I have lived in Copenhagen prior to that. Minneapolis is a nice city, though in its past, it has had issues with crime.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:54 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:56 PM   #118 (permalink)
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Come to Minneapolis. I have lived in Copenhagen prior to that. Minneapolis is a nice city, though in its past, it has had issues with crime.
I've been there. Loved it!
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:01 PM   #119 (permalink)
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But, the point is that they do have the right to use violence as a last resort. It's where all their authority rests on. When the police pull you over for a traffic violation, there is an understanding that if you don't stop they have the power to physically find a way to stop your car, and if you continue to resist, they can shoot you (or physically restrain you, which won't be done with a pillow fight). If they give you a ticket, you then have to show up in court. If you don't show up to court, they put out a warrant for you, and will then arrest you. If you resist, they can and will use violence to subdue you. In any conceivable situation, no matter how unlikely, ultimately they have the power of violence over you. If you a police officer steps on your foot, you can tell him to **** off, but you can't push him like you might be able to do to someone else, because you are then assaulting a police officer, and then you will be arrested, blah, blah, blah.
Yes but just because you CAN use violence doesn't mean you HAVE to, or are going to. So calling the police is not an act of violence. At worst, it's allowing for the possibility that violence will be perpetrated. But then again, that's up to the one the police are calling on. No cop in his or her right mind is going to kick someone's door in and shove a gun in the face of anyone who acts reasonably and doesn't give them reason to. On the other hand, if you were to alert the police that some loon was shooting up an apartment or shopping mall, would you not then expect, even welcome, the use of violence in subduing said loon?

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