slightly off topic, but also interesting, chief keif(lil reeses gang affiliate) also made jokes over the murder of lil jojo(rival gang) on twitter. Supposedly there is a video of Keif pointing at jojo's house, and the next day he was murdered.

I know its sadistic, but i like this refreshing honesty coming from a rapper. It's almost reminiscent of early NWA. Granted some pretty ****ed up **** is happening

Sometimes the police can be part of the problem. Just saying.

Refreshing honesty?
What are you injecting yourself with Sparky?

NWA were a bunch of fronters, trying play the part, same with Reese. You don't buy this posturing 'gangsta' bull sh/t do you?

Thank you. They were as much gangsta as Ozzy Osbourne was a satanist.

He means that calling the police is using potential violence to solve a dispute, since in any dispute, the police ultimately back up their authority with guns.

That's not really true since not all police carry guns. And even if they did, it still doesn't make calling the police an act of violence.

Um...that's my point. Police carry guns as a threat of violence. If you call the police, then you are calling in an armed force to use violence or the threat of violence to restore order.

Like I said before, not all police carry guns. But even if they did, calling them is only an act of violence if you completely redefine the meaning of the phrase "act of violence" to the point where it no longer has any meaning.

My mistake, I didn't see the "don't" in your post, but even if all police don't have guns, they still must use some form of violence to subdue someone if it comes to that. It certainly isn't the sort of violence that this Lil Reese clown used, but I wasn't defending HHBH's argument anyway, just clarifying his point on police and violence.

It has the potential to undermine society it such "pick[ing] on" goes against how that society is set up. All hierarchical societies are based on exploiting the weak, whether those within their own society (see slavery) or those without (see imperialism).

This is why notions that the Romans (or any other ancient civilization, really) had some sort of universal compassion is absurd. Consider that violence in these societies often had an economic role (such as in imperialism & slavery), as well as a cultural component - such as in the coliseum, for example.

Of course democracies sanction violence against their own. How would you characterize what happens to prisoners as anything but violent? Or do people cease to be part of the population the moment they are incarcerated?